Cysteen wrote:

thank you gods!! that delay thingy was driving me batty ;-; <3

it was driving me batty too, the developer thought it was a “feature”.

CaptainCracken wrote:

yay thanks godsy! the rubber band nearly drowned me last week xD

You had this happen since? or has it fully stopped now I removed the plugin?

Ken wrote:

I think the general overriding issue is the lack of death. I will start playing more often now and maybe my mood will change once I start trying to kill people again, however everyone has become an “expert” at pvp in 1.9. I was practicing with Cysteen after being gone for 6 months or so and it still took her 5 minutes of whacking me around to kill me… and I didn’t try to run and re pot. I find that incredibly annoying. I agree with Paul that if someone can escape battle for 15 seconds and stand still to TP they should be able to get away however the problem is defining “escaping from battle”. I know from past experience if you are chasing someone 15 blocks behind them and running at the same speed you will never catch up. In a fight someone can run for 15 seconds, not be pvp tagged. Throw an epearl into water, and then tp away when they hit the bottom of the lake. This is an example of when someone hasn’t escaped pvp but gets away from the 15 second timer. If only a proximity setting could be turned on and you cant get out of pvp if you within a certain radius, then the timer would start that would be awesome. The reason why the prices of diamond has collapsed is because no one needs new armor because very few people die from pvp. I know there is another thread talking about 1.9 pvp however in 1.8 God Apples were expensive and they were the price to pay to stay alive. In 1.9 the price to pay is an hour in front of a grinder to repair your armor. Everyone can be a “good” fighter and everyone can epearl away and re-arm to just come back and get whacked around. There are no global messages for “Chamberlain Lost to Cysteen 1456 whacks to 98”. If there was then maybe there would be some glory in pvp again. I want the “beheaded” messages. While the timer can be annoying when getting accidentally hit, increasing it (in a systematic way like God said “correlating it with damage taken”) will allow for those who arm themselves for a god fight to go in with the full intention of dying. This will also help limit the fights from hit one, to whenever you have to get off and epearl away, to when someone runs out of inventory and tries to run. Piratecraft needs more death One way to do that would be to make it incredible hard for someone to run after a god fight. Not make it impossible…. but if someone wants to bring 4 stacks of epearls to run after a fight, they limit the amount of Str or speed they carry making them more susceptible to dying….(Other servers also have an Epearl timer, when players can only use them once every 10 seconds. This may be another area of exploring on a different thread.) PVP use to have a purpose, it was used to settle feuds. Glory was found after one persons armor broke and they got dropped in 5-6 hits. Glory needs to return to the battlefield. No more whack a mole! Fights shouldn’t take hours, and you shouldn’t talk crap and then fight in god for 20 minutes and then call it a draw. That my friends is what grinds my gears. This change and the cost to bottle xp are steps in the right direction. Just my 2 cents.

Even though you took this completly off topic, and repeated whats been said in a few other threads about PVP, heres a few points.

• Mojang specifically made the game easier for the quicker gratification for young players (that is where the market is sadly at)
• Mending should have never, ever been added.
• 1.11 even introduces that ridiculous “Totem of Undying”
• Mojang shouldn’t have nerfed the spam clicking fix they added, you can just spam click still to fight

• Ken wrote:

  There are no global messages for “Chamberlain Lost to Cysteen 1456 whacks to 98”. If there was then maybe there would be some glory in pvp again.

  we used to have something similar to this, altough there are so many variables in PVP, landscape, potions etc etc that having a general “whacks” is utterly pointless.

• Remember, every single person wants to be a god, they always want to win, and they NEVER want to loose anything, this is a VERY VERY importatnt fact to know when you are talking about PVP, as ANY nerf to ANYTHING at all will make people angry and not want to actually improve PVP, believe me.
• Read this thread http://piratemc.com/topic/poll-should-we-remove-the-bottle-plugin-for-fairer-gameplay/

Hatter wrote:

One thing, is there any way at all that you can make the combat tag not affect dropping items? It irritates me. Edit: Not that type of dropping, people. Throwing.

Yeah its a toggle, but its staying as disabled because its to stop clever players hiding items before they die.

Kelly Yore wrote:

Why isn’t reducing it to 10 seconds an option?! xD

Because thats backwards, make an argument for it to me 10 seconds and we can consider it!

Ken wrote:

Take my suggestion with a grain of salt. However is it possible to create an increasing timer for each hit taken. Let’s say 10 seconds every time you are hit up to a maximum of 60 seconds. The reason for this would be to eliminate the issue when a friend tags you for fun and you have to wait a while before you drop item’s or teleport?

This is a great idea, im going to request that be added, if he does remind me to give you something sweet in-game, maybe instead of per hit we do damage.

Cysteen wrote:

id suggest the slow increments and see how each does. imo anything past 30 sec is a bit much, esp if you’re playing with friends and either get accidentally tagged when you need to tp, or need to log off for an emergency brb, it’s annoying to have to wait for a tag to wear off. having a longer tag also makes it harder to escape and just log out in the wilderness to escape pvp (obv after the tag wears off)…. too many people do that.

Yup, super valid point, I think 15 is fine, I just wanted to ask the community what they thought.

I think were golden at 15 seconds, Ill keep it as it is, but out of this thread came a new idea! so it was well worth creating the poll and thread, we could have a dynamic timer, so for longer battles you are tagged in PVP longer, so for those God VS God battles, your PVP timer jumps up, giving a higher chance of someone logging and losing? I think thats an example of the request.

Rivvur wrote:

Hey JamminMas, you know when Java mysteriously got on top of your castle? I airdropped him there. (Elytra) @Jammin_Mas

You kids and your fancy toys -_-

There are many scattered important forum posts, this is an index to all important forum threads and open server projects.

A link to this thread can always be found in /request in-game.

Server Projects

• Leaving Threads – Don’t.
• Aqueduct Thread
• No teleport weekend thread (Now to be a server)
• PirateCraft Games server development
• Would you want/use a Creative server?
• PirateCraft third Birthday thread
• Spawn Sign Project
• Cove Library
• Warp west (New spawn) Builders needed
• Warp east Builders needed
• Warp north builders thread (Thread needed)
• Warp south builders thread (Thread needed)
• Server road builders

Important Threads

• Request a claim be deleted
• Request Land to be regenerated
• Request a Town status for Map Icon
• Found a new brew? Post it in here!
• Report a player
• List of settlements replaced by Wiki page – PirateCraft_1 Settlements
• Post your Screenshots!
• Looking for media team writers
• Looking for media team screenshot role
• Looking for builders team
• Donator statue request thread
• Get a custom icon added to the map
• Donator Testimonials
• What projects are you working on?
• Private Build Submission for the PirateCraft website gallery
• Private Ship Index Submission for future PirateCraft plans
• Player behaviour and staff respect
• Ask the owner a question, Can I do this/that?
• Request piratemc.com username change
• How do we remake siege?
• Added 250 flags to the map icons
• PirateCraft looking for Digital Artists
• Should we remove the bottle plugin?
• Brainstorming kits, got a kit idea?
• Recruiting new staff
• Do we increase the PVP tag timer?

Misc Threads

• How to set a forum signature
• How to subscribe to forums

Any other master threads to add to this list? Does one need to be created?

Added the protocol hack http://piratemc.com/topic/changelog-added-1-11-protocol-hack-fixed-exit-messages/