GodsDead wrote:

Cysteen wrote:

endermites? theyre not being used for much atm.

I forgot about this idea. At present its already quite a chore, this would be utterly brutal to introduce..

Astrobolt wrote:

GodsDead wrote:

MinisterMoo wrote:

Please provide a shovel… PvP is enabled right? Fight over the shovel hahaha. And crabs. Some type of crab. IDK! WE NEED CRABS.

Silverfish that randomly pop up when you break sand… you might be onto something!

Perhaps in the distant future with 1.14 we could use custom mobs to make crabs? o.o

Can we call them AstroCrabs?

you’re damn right we can

Lets delve into this one.

-I have checked your punishment tracker for your current account, at no point since 2017 (I’m not sure when it was unbanned though) have you caused a problem which has sparked up on SwatTheDawg.

-On your _PigGuardian_ Punishment tracker, you’ve got over 12 instances. Most recent and possibly major one (not regarding the alt ban) was a mute in July 2016, due to the circumstances of the warning/mute also before hand, in which you were given your final warning. I will take into account the time between each one, final warning, Jan 2016, ‘2nd final’ warning, Jul 2016- just says chill, guess you were running your mouth or something.

-Checked all previous usernames of SwatTheDog also, none showed up.

_PigGuardian_ wrote:

First of all, I didn’t break any rule – this ban appeal is focused on a separate staff related issue.

Usually for these, you private message said staff member, and not create a ban appeal. However in this case I would say it is appropriate as it does concern the larger community.

_PigGuardian_ wrote:

I have grown older and more mature and have realized how destructive, immature, and stupid I have been in the past and want to try my best to redeem myself.

Not as such a pick on it, I just thought this is one of those times when someone puts something in a way I would predict 99% of the server can relate to. It is something everyone comes to realise, the quicker you do though the better, the only issue was that this wasn’t fast enough in the past.

_PigGuardian_ wrote:

A lot of the old players know me and resent me for my annoying character and don’t want me back.

Unfortunately, you do seem to still have some of this character, whether it is on purpose or not, I can note that last night (08/08/2018 -yay yanks can understand that also) that you did in fact cause some confrontation with Cysteen. I’m not going to start a new arguement here, and if one happens  around it we’ll know who’s fault it is, but I would say a great deal of the older player base is still very hesitant about your return. I for one do not know you very well, and am unfortunately somewhat bias in the respect towards the older players as the do not speak highly of you, I do however provide some sympathy in respect of how you do want to become better and you recognise this resentment that some of these players have. Again, I’m not here to start an argument, just stating the fact.

_PigGuardian_ wrote:

I am currently helping the elven empire get back to its former glory and making alliances rather than enemies

-Brilliant. Even if its current leaders are a bit more eccentric than Rep.

_PigGuardian_ wrote:

starting fights with old enemies and wish to reverse the player swap.

-See my long paragraph, but its good to see your putting this in writing.

_PigGuardian_ wrote:

If this is accepted I would be happy to follow a trial unban which essentially is an unban for a period of time in which the staff would make sure your not breaking rules and being a troll/*****. And if the conditions are followed and the player is seamed capable of being a rule following and respectful player than they will unbanned perma, if they are not then it is a perma ban.

-Debatable, but I’m sure something on long the lines of this has already been happening whilst you’ve returned.

Whether _PigGuardian_ should or should not be unbanned, that is for the Staff to decide. You may also want to rethink this. _PigGuardian_ is your account, but the history associated with it is not at all grand in the greatest of terms, you may choose that this is not such a great idea.

Either way, I hope you can redeem yourself, even if it is not under the name _PigGuardian_.

Grifine wrote:

Doing this will also promote player owned shops because if you dont get a shop on the main shop (warp shop2) you basically dont sell.

-_- Read that again. That’s not even an argument, it is a fact. -Don’t have a shop on the main shop street, you wont sell. -> Removing player owned shops being promoted by the server = less selling. I understand the point, but the reason this shopping area exists is because there was an awful lot less selling.

Grifine wrote:

Another thing, I dont know for sure, but technically you could currently build a base at warp shops, making your base un raidable, sorta exploiting it…

Evidence… Either way, I can see your point, BUT I am sure the moderators etc actively check this. This is however a possibility, but your losing your money at the same time just for storage space? Surely there is a HUGE negative to do this than make an unsiegeable claim?

Grifine wrote:

A certain group of players basically controls the entire market, owning most of the shops that are bought from, if we remove warp shops this will divide up the wealth possibly.

-True, what River says. But if you remove the market, the wealth is restricted even more as there is no place for it to be moved around at all. -I don’t have to mention that you actually doubt your argument

Grifine wrote:

possibly.

Grifine wrote:

think that removing these warps will help the economy because it will be a lot harder to get god gear for example without researching or talking to players, right now i could just warp shop2 and get a godset for around 1k without doing any research, talking or anything.

And the argument goes back to god gear. :/ Also, this in no way tries to fix the economy what you have suggested.

Grifine wrote:

This will also make people promote their own buisnesses, instead of having all the items you could ever imagine in one place.

? Not an argument. Promote your business and get noticed, and maybe do what the last bit does as that does get you noticed an makes you competitive.

Grifine wrote:

Honestly id add more to this post but im tired as hell and sorry for it being so unorganized and shit

Reason why you don’t do posts when your tired as hell and have it be unorganised and shit.

Grifine wrote:

Even if we remove shops there would still be people that are rich as hell, and probably a place just like warp shops

So how does that ‘divide the wealth’ and provide a solution?

Grifine wrote:

However, it would be pvp enabled, wouldn’t be able to be camped at, not very much lag, and it could be raidable… Some people would probably build near a warp for quick access, but without warp shop player owned shops would at least be useful again, because let’s face it, alamost everyone uses warp shops. Oh and there would be more and more shops in towns.

Lets break this up.

-It would be pvp enabled. When we’ve had places like warp shops before, they have been camped at- they would be able to be camped at also. Don’t know what made you think that idea. (probs tired)

-Raidable? sure yeah, i’ll take that as your best positive.

-Building near warp shops? People do that for the (take note of 0:35) https://youtu.be/cd4-UnU8lWY Also, why would you not use /warp shops for even quicker access than open yourself up to raids from people doing /warp shops (?)

-Play owned shops are more useful at /warp shop why? Because they are accessible. People would also build by any of these new shopping areas, and I don’t want to see any more fucking “So so built near me” on the forums.

-Don’t know how warp shops = less shops in towns. Surely again your problem of a tonne of people having the riches would occur again, and it’d be in those towns.

Grifine wrote:

these shops is just set up to make the rich get richer and the poor get poorer

@GodsDead they’re breaking the simulation. The poor get poorer because they don’t work their ass or make economically good choices.

Grifine wrote:

By camping I mean staying in a shop to stay safe from pvp and raiding, I should’ve been more specific. And having people raid/PvP when you’re trying to buy something is part of the charm of pirate craft or the way it once was.

And was the reason why the economy stagnated and led to all those ‘why is the economy rubbish’ posts.

Grifine wrote:

Plus that money will soon be replenished into that players bal because they sell way more than the rent costs…

-Yes, but it takes the money OUTTA the economy. Yes it makes them richer, but eventually people will have what they want or just don’t go and buy stuff, meaning less money or moving as the ‘rich’ lose it forever.

Grifine wrote:

And only the rich going there ye say? Well cysteen says otherwise and I trust her, she’s a successful businesswomen and says that people were safe to walk naked there…

Business people are good at convincing the weak minded to buy their wares (or into their ideas). 😛

But I don’t know, honestly id add more to this post but im tired as hell and sorry for it being so unorganized and shit- but idgaf about feedback in this case because /warp shops is here to stay.

Uuuh. Ok then. Well, let me just point out a couple of things.  Quoting you: “A certain group of players basically controls the entire market, owning most of the shops that are bought from, if we remove warp shops this will divide up the wealth possibly.” There will always a group of people that control the economy. That is true and will always be true. Just like Apple and Google, there are the bigger companies then there are the smaller ones. There will always be giant and rich players like Cysteen or crews like TAS/CLTN that work their ass off to get money. If you work hard and advertise a lot, you could get as big as Cysteen’s shop (maybe) or someone else. I was really big in selling potions during the Horsia war, and I worked like hell for it. I went from 10k to 60k in about 2 months. If anything, warp shop has helped divide up wealth more and get money out of the eco, with new players putting up new shops. Also, you say,”I also think that removing these warps will help the economy because it will be a lot harder to get god gear”. This is completely false. People could still advertise in chat and say,”Selling God Gear 1k!” or you could say,”looking to buy god gear msg me” and get the same results. All you would have to do is wait for someone that sells God to get on. So it wouldn’t change how hard something is to get. Finally, you say,”This will also make people promote their own businesses”. If you want money, I haven’t seen you promoting your shop. Once I managed to get my shop on the main street, (that I no longer own) I had to advertise a fuck ton to even get a single customer. I even had my friends pass out papers that said: “Need Potions? Head to shop 40!” Yeah, it helped that it was on the main street, but if you advertise enough you could get a shop out of the way to become popular. It’s either that you aren’t trying that hard to make money, or you don’t know how to make money. Also, you spelled businesses wrong.

/end rant

Thanks, River

Kirn wrote:

Yeah guys lets ban people for killing in a pvp server! It totally makes sense i mean this guy is a genius. git gud

This got me a ban kirn lol (gf pmc?)

Just as well ana isn’t Cysteen (would have been a whole different story! bAn)

But in all seriousness, anandak, no rules seemed to have been broken. Also you don’t seem to have provided the evidence, a vital part in any good  and valid report. I’m not sure if its your incompetence or if you just forgot.

However, this has happened to many people in the past; and unless you are a regarded as a highly valued player on the server, I doubt  people will care if you are attacked.

I’m not being hypocritical when I say this, but anan, you do seem to annoy people on the server with your business and your general chat. Furthermore, this gives reason for the Great BE and CSN to utilise the plugins to gain entry into your base and attack you.

I’d say your just being a bit butthurt

You also should have learned from this Jetty that breaking decorations, dirt and a bunch of random things all over someones base during a siege is frowned upon, and as Blue said not permitted. So please do not continue going around breaking everything you can while running around like you did at Cysteen’s base just to harass the player and be an ass. Wanted to make sure you picked up on that too, not just the spawn punching to keep people from leaving. If your breaking blocks to try and get into someones base, that is a different story. Breaking most of her ducks, and her pathways, along with random blocks, wasn’t very cool. It gains you nothing and just makes a lot of wasted time for players. I live for instance in an underground box, with a purely decorative base on top. If someone were to siege me and destroy the candy kingdom decorations just for giggles, it would probably make me despise the person and start needless grudges. You should try to plan out a siege, examine their base, and look for weaknesses. That is my two cents. Mind you, I am a player that does not PvP unless I am being attacked or Cysteen is. Glad your back, but try to listen to other players advice in game. Ignoring it and waiting for staff confirmation can instead increase your chances of getting in trouble. I generally don’t do anything people say is against the rules, and then confirm with staff when possible. It avoids putting myself in a bad situation.