[Request] (for 1.11) disable shulkerboxes inside Echests

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  • #48262
    Cysteen
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    so ive been thinking, with 1.11 eventually being released to Piratecraft, that means a few things. mainly, shulker boxes. I personally cannot wait for these, as they would be sooo helpful for many things. but I also think theyre a little bit too op for a specific reason… they can be placed in Echests. if someone were to get even one shulker box, they could put all or most of their valuables in it and be basically unraidable! now that’s just no fun at all, and a bit op imo. I believe I found a plugin to disable the ability to put shulker boxes in echests:

    https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/shulkerblock-prevent-players-from-placing-shulkerbox-into-chests-enderchests.33719/

    id personally love to have these, but I do feel as if they would make some players become even less raidable. it IS still possible to even lock a shulker box! all you need to do is cover it. that’s it. by what we should hope to be common sense by now is to lock chests anyways, so it shouldn’t be too much an issue to lock another chest.

    Id like to see some thoughts on this, and hopefully others would agree with me that it would be op, instead of being screamed at by the ones that do want to stay unraidable.. it’s a pirate server! cant keep everything safe! let me know what you all think.

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    #48263
    Tim_of_Sparta
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    The fact that someone who is OP can raid a noob and take all of their things and stuff it into an unsiegeable box just takes away the fun. Because there is no way to get that stuff back. There for raiding would be useless.

    #48264
    Rivvur
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    I concur on this matter.

    Example:

    Let’s say I have an enderchest full of shulker boxes. (Aka 27 shulker boxes) If I were to put all these shulker boxes in my end chest, I would have 729 spaces to store stuff in. Lets say I fill all the shulker boxes with stone. I would be able to store 46,656 pieces of stone. Overpowered much?

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    #48267
    Bazurka
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    Hm, looks like we have two different opinions on what too OP means:
    One – “all that loot can be stored away safely so no way to raid.”
    Two – “if someone raids they can put ALL the loot away in one sweep – into their shulker boxes inside their echest.”

    I can see pro and cons.
    Finally – I have a place to store all those bones and rotten potatoes. BUT yeah, what if I get raided ?!

    I do think their are over the top, also known as “too OP”.

    Looks like we need a poll or something after the discussion.

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    #48273
    Nado
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    i think they are too OP anyways

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    #48277
    Torkey
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    I dont feel that they are to OP because you can store them in ender chests as all this does is makes this loot not raidable if the player who owns it losses in a seige but this is the same as a chest with stone brick on top of it, using shulker boes is just alot more expensive way to store the items. So all this means is the only OP part of these is a player can store the equivalent of 13 and a half duble chests in one block but its minecraft space isent really a problem. The only thing i can think of that makes this slightly to over powered is that a builder can carry more material with them to a build but once again i dont really feel this is that over powered it has to be removed. There has been alot of changes in minecraft over the past few updates and I feel that if we where to start removeing anything that feels slightly over powered then half of the stuff that comes from the updates woud be lost, like look at elytra’s they let you fly in survival mod. So i think that if shulker boxes can go in ender chests it wont be the end of the world for raiding because all it is, is the same as haveing their chests blocked although this is only my opinion on this.

    #48279
    Jmoo
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    If everybody had access to getting shulker boxes I don’t think this would be too OP. The fact that all the shulkers in the end have been killed off and the only way to now get the shells needed for the boxes is by eggs is what makes them OP. The only way to get the eggs is to either donate and get them with your donation or buy them off a donator(I don’t think that many donators would want to sell them). This leaves a very large part of the community without them and gives an advantage to the ones who do have them. Personally….if there was a way for non donators to get them I wouldn’t see a problem with it.

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    #48282
    Torkey
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    If it was for donators only then yes i would see a problem with it but a shop could get set up in cove to buy them like there was a shop for the elytra’s.

    #48284
    Goldieh
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    People are basically unraidable already. Even if you win a siege most of their chests are bound to be blocked off for the exception of maybe a few. Currently, the only way you lose stuff to a raid is either due to your own stupidity or your lack of care. It doesn’t make sense to me how you claim that this would help make people less unraidable when most of them already are.

    #48285
    AdmiralTrench
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    i agree if you have a shulker box inside a enderchest you would be able to shove as much loot as you can in there. Enderchests are suposto be the chests with little space to keep your special stuff safe from people

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    #48286
    MrDork
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    Just delete shulker boxes. They are just an equivalent to backpack mods. I mean, imo, the only purpose I could see me using this would be if I was raiding and or mining, storing materials. Or possibly at times for building. This are just add ons to the main factors of Minecraft. Eventually someone will glitch it, then boom. Shulker boxes are ruined, just like 75% of other things to good to be true. It’s giving false hope.

    But, this is just my experience, there are many many ways to prove me wrong, just my two cents.

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    #48287
    Crazy Pirate
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    Enderchests don’t need protecting, and with shulker boxes, hiding loot away during a siege is easy.

    Say I’ve opened my god gear chest, and I get sieged, and I have no complicated redstone way to seal off my chests. Normally, if I then die, my loot is ripe for the taking. But, using shulker boxes hidden away, I can dump all of my loot into an e-chest, no risk at all.

    Plus, if I want to move my entire base somewhere, all I need to do is have an e chest on me, filled with boxes. So, I just make a claim and place down the enderchest, and have access to a stupid amount of gear. OP asf.

    This plugin is definitely needed.

    #48288
    CaptainCracken
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    i agree with this, donators will be incredibly overpowered against all the other non donors, since they can just donate for the eggs and keep 27 boxes in the echest, thats way too much storage.

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    #48296
    Artemis
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    Before I begin, Callie wanted me to include “Bacon” in the first sentence.

    Being able to cram these things into a box within an E-chest defeats the entire raiding aspect of the server, as well as most servers as a whole. What’s stopping me from getting my hands on a few and cramming my entire base into an E-chest? I used to play around with a modpack in SP a few years ago and that’s exactly how I used to play.

    Shulker boxes alone however seem like fair game. Perhaps they could also be made siegable?

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    GodsDead
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    If everybody had access to getting shulker boxes I don’t think this would be too OP. The fact that all the shulkers in the end have been killed off and the only way to now get the shells needed for the boxes is by eggs is what makes them OP. The only way to get the eggs is to either donate and get them with your donation or buy them off a donator(I don’t think that many donators would want to sell them). This leaves a very large part of the community without them and gives an advantage to the ones who do have them. Personally….if there was a way for non donators to get them I wouldn’t see a problem with it.

    This explains why people asked for Shulker Eggs to be added to the donator item eggs, Talk about pre-planning much!


    @Cysteen
    great forward thinking! I love the idea of this plugin, I was more worried about making moving items even easier and ships even less useful, one thing that a ship is good for is moving large quantities of items relatively fast, you can pack up an entire base onto a ship and move home. If you can put damn Shulker boxes in an Echest.. you are just teleporting your items across the map… in massive quantities. yeah.. Im totally on board with stopping them being put into Echests.

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