Ideas for fixing 1.9 pvp

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  • #33319
    XeN0Hunter
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    as far as I’ve heard , the amount of people complaining about 1.9 on every server, including this one, is basically yonanymous. So I have done some research on how to fix the problems, In my opinion. I would love some feedback on what else to fix or better ways to fix these

    Problem: Swords don’t deal enough damage anymore and the swing speed penalty is garbage

    solution: in the server files you can change the base stats of weapons. Damage and attack speed. No plugins needed

    problem: food regen is overpowered

    solution: add a pvp tag that slows down or disables food regen in combat. I wouldn’t know exactly how to do this. It is probably going to be hard to do but oh well.

    problem: shields break extremely fast!

    solution: I don’t see the problem. The shield takes more damage the higher the damage it gets hit by is. That just means you gotta be strategic with shields.

    now as far as we know mojang could fix these on their own in the future, or  they might not. We don’t know until they do it. So I would love it if we could get these added to the server

    these are all the ideas I had for how to fix some things. If anyone else has ideas please feel free to post them here.

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    #33320
    Ketoh
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    Er no we updated to 1.9 for a reason and I think fixing it defeats the purpose of 1.9

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    #33325
    koi0001
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    Er no we updated to 1.9 for a reason and I think fixing it defeats the purpose of 1.9

    I understand what your saying and I agree with both stand points but I think there is another way of thinking about this. We can change the amount of attack dmg & speed a sword, axe and shovel or really any tool do.  I think to solve the disagreement about the direction of pvp, this server needs to add ways to make weapons more customisable, such as heavy hitters that have amazingly slow attack speed. we could also add shields that would add the slowness effect to players. The options for these customisable weapons are endless.

    This was just an idea I personally think this is one of the best options for this server and would add more of what the vast majority of the player base thought 1.9 would be like.

    EDIT: Some people thought that this would be 1.8 pvp again with spam click op swords I just wanna highlight that  fast weapons would have horrible damage

    #33327
    RaveTheWave
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    I fully agree with you @Allidoisdig1234
    I would be very happy if the weapon cooldown and stats get resetted, because i don’t enjoy the 1.9 fights anymore.
    That’s very sad because i liked to PvP and combo around.

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    #33333
    Artemis
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    I’ll agree with you about the regen, but leave the attack speed as is. Pre-1.9, combat was literally just about who shelled out more cash for their internet. You had bad internet? You’re gonna get thrown across a room in a melee fight. 1.9 has actually made it moreso about skill than spamming that left-click. On top of that, 1.9 has also made bows actually useful against someone in god armor.

    As for shields breaking fast, just bring a second shield into battle.

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    #33338
    GodsDead
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    “Oh No! I can no longer use Gapples and Spam click my mouse button”

    #33342
    Cysteen
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    just put unbreaking on your shield. or carry a spare. problem solved..?

     

    and yeah, bows have become a lot more useful. teehee 🙂

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    #33344
    Deathtoll_
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    I fully Agree with @Allidoisdig1234 and Rave. I enjoyed strafing and getting combos.

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    #33351
    iOdiwanKenobi
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    To be honest, I don’t care, I give up on swinging swords.

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    #33354
    Minecraftventura
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    “Oh No! I can no longer use Gapples and Spam click my mouse button”


    @GodsDead

    First of all, I just want to point out that gapples are still enabled, they are just completely unnecessary due to how easy it is to survive in 1.9. Second, people arent complaining because they cant spam click, they are complaining about how difficult*, time consuming, and straight up boring pvp has become. While the numbers seem to add up, and it all sounds like a great idea, it simply dosent work with the current setup. If almost the entire community dislikes an update, maybe it’s time to look back and reconsider the update. Keep in mind that this is “The combat update” I dont think a single person from CoV or Solis(The two main pvp crews on the server) likes the changes and re-balances made to pvp. Most of the people who like the changes are the people who didn’t pvp in 1.8, dont plan to pvp in 1.9, and are just happy about the new items blocks introduced in 1.9.

     

    *I just want to clarify that when I say “difficult” Im not saying “pvp is hard now, boo hoo” I’m saying that it is nearly impossible for anyone to kill else anyone in god, because of how easy it is to stay alive for a long period of time, then run away at a person’s earliest convenience(If someone starts running and enderpearling there is almost nothing that can be done to stop them).

    #33356
    Deathtoll_
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    Everything VenturaTheWizard said is 100 % the truth.

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    #33357
    GodsDead
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    “Oh No! I can no longer use Gapples and Spam click my mouse button”

    @GodsDead First of all, I just want to point out that gapples are still enabled, they are just completely unnecessary due to how easy it is to survive in 1.9. Second, people arent complaining because they cant spam click, they are complaining about how difficult*, time consuming, and straight up boring pvp has become. While the numbers seem to add up, and it all sounds like a great idea, it simply dosent work with the current setup. If almost the entire community dislikes an update, maybe it’s time to look back and reconsider the update. Keep in mind that this is “The combat update” I dont think a single person from CoV or Solis(The two main pvp crews on the server) likes the changes and re-balances made to pvp. Most of the people who like the changes are the people who didn’t pvp in 1.8, dont plan to pvp in 1.9, and are just happy about the new items blocks introduced in 1.9. *I just want to clarify that when I say “difficult” Im not saying “pvp is hard now, boo hoo” I’m saying that it is nearly impossible for anyone to kill else anyone in god, because of how easy it is to stay alive for a long period of time, then run away at a person’s earliest convenience(If someone starts running and enderpearling there is almost nothing that can be done to stop them).

    So let me get this extremely clear @Minecraftventura since you think you have everything figured out.

    First of all, how dare you take this tone with me, If you do not like how I have spent hours and hours and hours making sure nothing is lost to upgrade the minecraft server up to the latest version which is updated automatically by clients, then you can leave the server immediately. DO NOT come on here and insult me because you don’t like the way MOJANG / Microsoft has updated minecraft, how dare you propose that I am responsible for he changes made in 1.9. I will not tolerate this disgusting behaviour.

    Personally I think the changes are positive, and in the right direction, they need adjustment, but with the disgusting impantiece of these people who refuse to wait for the 1.9.3 updates and future updates, they refuse to recognise the terrible PVP mechanics of minecraft as a whole. The fact you can literally walk through someone and spin around and attack them is beyond me. or Maybe you just don’t understand jokes?

    First of all, I just want to point out that gapples are still enabled

    You need to read the actual 1.9 threads on the forums, there is an actual discussion about the future of gapples.

    maybe it’s time to look back and reconsider the update

    Im sorry, what? you want to roll back to 1.8.8? or are you just talking crap?

    Keep in mind that this is “The combat update”

    Yes, its the combat update, Mojang/Microsoft made this update, this is not a server that is just for the die hard PVP’s is it? Im not going to change how the very basic mechanics of the game work to cater for you and your crews?!? Have you even thought this through? before you started on your rant?  OBVIOUSLY when peoele join a sever they expect it to work similar to the way the actual game has been updated/created, if you change how VERY basic things work, then they get confused or think theres bugs because 1-2 small groups of children that have watched a youtube video saying “1.9 PVP is baddddd” start complaining.

    So you managed to take a small joke and fun banter, and be a muppet, and attack me for the work I put in to push us the the latest verison. good work @Minecraftventura

    Thread closed.

    #33358
    Crazy Pirate
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    If almost the entire community dislikes an update, maybe it’s time to look back and reconsider the update. Keep in mind that this is “The combat update” I dont think a single person from CoV or Solis(The two main pvp crews on the server) likes the changes and re-balances made to pvp.

    Last time I checked, 1.9 isn’t Piratecraft exclusive. So what, people can’t spam gapples and swords, and so what, some of us with crappier internet now stand a chance? This server isn’t just a PVP server, we have builders too, and the fact that people now have time to run or teleport away doesn’t mean we need to change the entire mechanics to fit the needs of two crews. You don’t honestly think that mechanics are going to be changed because your advantage is diminishing?

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