Chorus Fruit being used to glitch into base through solid walls after Siege

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  • #33651
    mountainrasta
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    I just wanted to ask if this was aloud, turkeyman11a was sieged in my base where he has trust by the COV and when he was shot they used chorus fruits to keep “glitching” for want of a better word through solid walls until they got into my base and killed me. Then proceeded to empty one of my vaults by tping backward and forward to remove all the items. My question is i thought @GodsDead said chorus fruits would not let you get into peoples safe bases like this.

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    #33655
    CaptainCracken
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    ^^ mountain to prevent conflict here cov didnt have trust in his base.

    they were only siegeing and won the siege earlier if im correct, as u can tell in the vid when mountain was killed the “_____ has defeated mountain/turkey in siege warfare!”

    so that means the 5 mins of button trust allowed COV to get into their base by eating chorus fruit, that randomly teleported them in.

    -CaptainCracken

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    #33657
    mountainrasta
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    Yes sorry only turkey has trust in my base, also i would like to know how they got onto the roof with the skull of my base to kill turkey in the first place as you cant use ender pearls until you win a siege?

     

    #33658
    souldin
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    So first off i want you correct you on this. Using the chorus fruit to teleport through a wall is in no way glitching so please stop saying COV was glitching. The fruit when eaten teleports you randomly to a spot in a 20 block area it is totally by chance. As for your vault you lost the siege. witch gives that person permission to press buttons and open chest. It is your fault if you do not lock your chest.

    Souldin1

    #33659
    mountainrasta
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    to clarify there is no buttons as there was no doors into the vault, also i said “glitching” for want of a better word as i dont know what else to call it. Also I understand the chorus fruit I just dont know how it can be legal to let you “tp” into someones claim.

    #33661
    Minecraftventura
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    As souldin said, please refrain from using the word “glitch”, as that implies something that was not intended as part of the gameplay. Chorus fruit, and the properties that that possess are clearly an intended part of the game. In the same way that the changes to combat aren’t a glitch, and the Elytra that I used to get on top of your base aren’t a glitch, the properties of chorus fruit are not a glitch. As for me, I personally see this as a good thing, this opens raiding back up as a major part of the gameplay. The idea of changing this and removing a major part of the gameplay that Mojang implemented, and that GodsDead spent months upgrading the server to is a huge waste of GodsDead’s valuable time and effort. In GodsDead’s own words: “Im not going to change how the very basic mechanics of the game work to cater for you and your crews?!?”

    #33663
    mountainrasta
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    Also I just want to say that Its not loosing the stuff in that vault which anoys me its the way it was done which underminds the whole claim system, as when you loose a siege even if you have a solid room/vault other people can just pop in and do as they wish. I just dont think chorus fruits should be used this way.

    #33665
    souldin
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    for the love of god….. LOCK YOUR CHEST and this will not happen. all of my vaults are on complete locking systems with back up locking systems. ifs your fault and your fault only if this happens.

    Souldin1

    #33666
    vape
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    I can not comment on some of this, as I wasn’t online and haven’t talked to anyone about this. That being said, you are forgetting one thing: If you properly lock your chests, no amount of hacking/glitching or minecraft mechanics will allow anyone to remove anything from your chests.

    #33667
    CaptainCracken
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    As souldin said, please refrain from using the word “glitch”, as that implies something that was not intended as part of the gameplay. Chorus fruit, and the properties that that possess are clearly an intended part of the game. In the same way that the changes to combat aren’t a glitch, and the Elytra that I used to get on top of your base aren’t a glitch, the properties of chorus fruit are not a glitch. As for me, I personally see this as a good thing, this opens raiding back up as a major part of the gameplay. The idea of changing this and removing a major part of the gameplay that Mojang implemented, and that GodsDead spent months upgrading the server to is a huge waste of GodsDead’s valuable time and effort. In GodsDead’s own words: “Im not going to change how the very basic mechanics of the game work to cater for you and your crews?!?”

    i just want to post this paragraph here that i found in the 1.9 main update thread-

    “Chorus fruit

    I don’t like the idea of these, here is the description

    Teleports the player to a random nearby location when eaten (like an enderman).

    Which means people randomly teleporting through walls, into vaults etc, I’ve already asked the GriefPrevention dev (About 6 months ago) to make sure these do not work with Claims, he better sort that out. If he dousnt, then we will have to disable them until he does. ”

     

    godsy wants the 1.9 update to be as close to normal as possible, without any major changes (except gapple). he wants us to be able to use chorus fruit, but, as he said there ^^ he does not want them to be used to teleport thru walls into vaults.

    i do agree on locking the chests that this all could have been prevented.

    -CaptainCracken

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    #33669
    MCShovel
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    This is a known feature, and makes perfect sense. Ender pearls work after a siege, why wouldn’t Chorus Fruit?

    They won the siege, you died, they get 5 minutes to whatever they want in your claim. This is how siege works.

    Get over it.

    "Life is not fair; get used to it."
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    #33670
    mountainrasta
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    All the chests with the good stuff were blocked and my diamonds, god etc is stored between other vaults. I was talking to godsdead a while ago and he directed my to the thread captain is talking about, this is my point not the loosing my stuff from my vault which was yes my fault for not blocking the chests( altought it is my day to day chest room so not much of any value there). So as i said in the words of godsdead “I don’t like the idea of these” and as godsy said “Which means people randomly teleporting through walls, into vaults etc, I’ve already asked the GriefPrevention dev (About 6 months ago) to make sure these do not work with Claims, he better sort that out. If he dousnt, then we will have to disable them until he does.” Should using them like this be a broken rule? i’m just asking.

    #33671
    Cysteen
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    of course people don’t want to keep this mechanic. it means they actually have to care about how they protect their bases. ive seen several players say they just rather log out to completely avoid a siege. is that how it’s supposed to work? where is the fun in that? the fruit is a RANDOM tp. meaning you may or may not get a tp into a part of a base. plus, you must WIN the siege first. meaning people will actually have to fight back. traps, cannons, allies… anything. god armor isn’t hard to get. nobody has to rely on gaps, grab a couple speed and strength pots, maybe a couple blackfire and some pork, go out and start defending. the fruit will prevent people from just making a 6 sided box with no doors from laughing about how ppl cant get in, logging out, then laughing about how ppl STILL cant get in. this will hopefully allow other players to participate in sieges. bring the fun back to the server. like last summer, sieges were happening all the time. was a lot of fun. even though I was on the pointy end of peoples swords I still defended.

     

    also on a side note, if you don’t wanna get raided, put a block over your chest. boom, problem solved. ive learned that the hard way, maybe that’s what it takes for others to learn too. npt hard. don’t wanna waste durability on your tools to remove the blocks? use slime block, tnt if youre ballsy, (kinda a joke, idk who would be dumb enough to do that), soul sand, hay bales, logs… hell even a crafting table. all these blocks are non siegable at present and don’t require a specific tool to break.

    If I had a nickel for every time I, Ooo hey, a butterfly!! *runs off chasing the butterfly*

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    #33672
    MCShovel
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    @mountainrasta Chorus Fruit DOES NOT work in your claim, nor do Ender Pearls. Unless someone has /accesstrust or more permissions.

    Winning a siege gives you that access, and thus they are free to roam your plot. Just because it’s a new game mechanic doesn’t make it a problem.

    "Life is not fair; get used to it."
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    #33673
    iOdiwanKenobi
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    Lucky I have my chests locked.

    Now, this is going to whipe out the whole servers bases as many of them are boxes. But what if some noob is just like gardening, then BANG siege, then the attackers eat food to get in. I am now scared to go outside my box because of that.

    Ironic

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