[changelog] New Anti Cheat (Fixed vanilla boat kick?), New Rank & other changes

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  • #49228

    GodsDead
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    • Changed the backup time to be 2 hours earlier, it was conflicting with the restart times, its taking twice as long to make backups nowadays.
    • Added a TON of player submitted death messages: https://piratemc.com/topic/submit-custom-death-messages-post-your-ideas/
    • Fixed punishment tracker on the website https://piratemc.com/topic/website-punishment-tracker-fixed-again-finally/
    • Added a new rank, a builder rank called Craftsman, this is under housewright. Housewright is a build team manager, and Craftsman is a builder.
      • No extra perms in-game, No name colors, can only be viewed with /checkrank username at present.
      • Is auto trusted on Cove/Spawn/Server projects.
      • Preparing for cross-server projects
      • Housewright inherits craftsman
      • Gains 5 build warps /warp build1-5
    • New anti-cheat, This is a major change to PirateCraft, we have used the same anti-cheat since we first existed, I have fully replaced it, The reason its such a major change, is that its untested on PirateCraft so may cause some false positives until its tweaked properly and the only way to do this is run it and trial and error. It’ll auto kick/ban anyone that uses Kill aura for instance.
      • Hopefully this fixes the vanilla boat kick people used to get.
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    #49250

    Nado
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    When u run with an event weapon (with extra speed) it thinks you’re glitching and then kicks you

     

     

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    #49253

    GodsDead
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    When u run with an event weapon (with extra speed) it thinks you’re glitching and then kicks you

    Makes sense, it’s not vanilla game play and there’s no plugin to verify you are allowed to be using extra speed.

    I don’t think changing the threshold just for a few event weapons would be worth it?

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    #49273

    CaptainCracken
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    well, a lot of people use them for pvp (including myself) and this opens up the opportunity of getting kicked for “potentially glitching” while tagged and losing your inventory.

     

    also, i use fast event weapons for faster ground travel, and i did this yesterday and i got lagged back every ten seconds. i was even kicked underwater for “not taking knockback”.

     

    edit: also, callie did a major sale of a ton of event weapons, meaning that they are in the hands of a lot more people then they were before. also, people have died and lost them to others as well.

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    #49286

    Cysteen
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    theres a lot of event weapons on the server now. I myself have a fairly large collection/stock of them. id prefer not to say how many and what ones, but i still have many of them, that i occasionally like to dust off and use every so often. other players, like cap, nado, and many others rely on event weapons for travel, or even an edge in pvp (no pun intended). and like cap said, theres a lot more in the eco now that callie sold them in his shop just a few weeks ago. theres a lot of event weapons on the server. i mean, a LOT. getting kicked for flagging anticheat by just using a special weapon makes a lot of players that use these not want to anymore, making the weapons practically useless. and since some players either paid out the bum for theirs, or grinded at callies wonderful events for hours, (or killed other players for their weapons) it would be heartbreaking for many people to not be able to use the items they worked for.

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    #49292

    Crazy Pirate
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    Event weapons provide what, only a 25% speed increase? 50%? Can’t you just allow anti-cheat to have a threshold 25%, 50% higher than normal, so that people can use event weapons and not get kicked. Its not like hackers would exploit this either; coming onto a server, you’d probably give yourself more of an advantage than that.

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    #49294

    Cysteen
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    a soulless sabre gives the highest speed boost of any weapon (+20%), though a very select few even own one, even fewer use them actively. if someone were to also wear an ancient wither skull (a 2016 summer event item), they would gain an additional 10% speed boost. on top of this, if they were to offhand a frostie or santa sword (a 2016 Christmas event item) which gives +10% speed, they would be at a staggering +40% speed boost. pair that with a speed 2 potion, youll get +80% movement speed. it’s insane. not saying many people use that amount of gear/items to boost their speed, but callie’s events and crazy weapons have made that possible! it would be such a huge letdown to have the rare and valuable weapons we grinded for become solely display items. (because that would be their worth if you just get kicked in pvp for using them).

    there’s a lot of different combinations of items that give different speed buffs, and all of them stack with speed potions, so it’s possible to get some insane speed boosts (like what I described above, to my knowledge would be the fastest speed possible with all current event items on the server).

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    #49295

    GodsDead
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    well, a lot of people use them for pvp (including myself) and this opens up the opportunity of getting kicked for “potentially glitching” while tagged and losing your inventory. also, i use fast event weapons for faster ground travel, and i did this yesterday and i got lagged back every ten seconds. i was even kicked underwater for “not taking knockback”. edit: also, callie did a major sale of a ton of event weapons, meaning that they are in the hands of a lot more people then they were before. also, people have died and lost them to others as well.

    theres a lot of event weapons on the server now. I myself have a fairly large collection/stock of them. id prefer not to say how many and what ones, but i still have many of them, that i occasionally like to dust off and use every so often. other players, like cap, nado, and many others rely on event weapons for travel, or even an edge in pvp (no pun intended). and like cap said, theres a lot more in the eco now that callie sold them in his shop just a few weeks ago. theres a lot of event weapons on the server. i mean, a LOT. getting kicked for flagging anticheat by just using a special weapon makes a lot of players that use these not want to anymore, making the weapons practically useless. and since some players either paid out the bum for theirs, or grinded at callies wonderful events for hours, (or killed other players for their weapons) it would be heartbreaking for many people to not be able to use the items they worked for.

    Event weapons provide what, only a 25% speed increase? 50%? Can’t you just allow anti-cheat to have a threshold 25%, 50% higher than normal, so that people can use event weapons and not get kicked. Its not like hackers would exploit this either; coming onto a server, you’d probably give yourself more of an advantage than that.

    a soulless sabre gives the highest speed boost of any weapon (+20%), though a very select few even own one, even fewer use them actively. if someone were to also wear an ancient wither skull (a 2016 summer event item), they would gain an additional 10% speed boost. on top of this, if they were to offhand a frostie or santa sword (a 2016 Christmas event item) which gives +10% speed, they would be at a staggering +40% speed boost. pair that with a speed 2 potion, youll get +80% movement speed. it’s insane. not saying many people use that amount of gear/items to boost their speed, but callie’s events and crazy weapons have made that possible! it would be such a huge letdown to have the rare and valuable weapons we grinded for become solely display items. (because that would be their worth if you just get kicked in pvp for using them). there’s a lot of different combinations of items that give different speed buffs, and all of them stack with speed potions, so it’s possible to get some insane speed boosts (like what I described above, to my knowledge would be the fastest speed possible with all current event items on the server).

     

    Just to clarify, you asking me to change the threshold will allow cheaters to continue using hacks instead of them being blocked.

    So for the extremely few people that use a custom weapon to boost speed for example, you will be opening the ENTIRE server up to people able to use cheats to do the same thing. Just take a step back, don’t think about your own personal use, think about the server as a whole.

    This new anti cheat is brand spanking new to me, so I would assume its a global threshold change, I will ask the developers and community that have used this plugin longer if there is a way to whitelist allowing item speed changes to be ignored by the anti-cheat, im 80% sure the answer will be its a global variable though.

    If you are all insistent on changing it, I will move the threshold, But this reply will stay here as a warning when people complain about people cheating it.

    I understand that these bespoke weapons were created/used/expensive to give an advantage to a very few, that’s a given. but you all need to take a step back and think of the server as a whole.

    My aim is to reduce cheaters, improve the server as a whole, I’m not trying to remove custom weapon speed from people, that isn’t my intention, this is sadly just a result of upping the anti.


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    #49304

    Crazy Pirate
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    I just thought that if one were to hack speed, you would hack more than a 20% increase.

    However, if it is that much of a risk, I’m content just to put up an item frame and store it away.

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    #49317

    GodsDead
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    I just thought that if one were to hack speed, you would hack more than a 20% increase. However, if it is that much of a risk, I’m content just to put up an item frame and store it away.

    Im game for changing any of it, its untested so were testing it live, so I’ll change it as it needs to be changed, Its just really fucking irritating that if it dousnt trigger for normal play that were opening it up for issues.

    I had someone report to me that everyone says “the new anti cheat plugin sucks” but nothing more than that, why does it suck? why are there no reports? why is nobody replying here with why it “sucks”. from what I can see its a million times better than the buggy crap we had before.


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    #49318

    BGraph
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    If the player is lagging, as I am all too often, then they’ll get kicked for “breaking blocks too fast”.

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    #49319

    Artemis
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    Shifting while jumping from one block to a block that’s either higher / lower on the Y axis seems to trigger it, especially if you smash your head on the ceiling in the process. Paths also seem to glitch players out more than usual just by walking on them.

    On a side note, if the plugin flags you for glitching, it tells you to shift and block with your sword, but uh… Blocking with a sword was removed back in 1.9.

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    #49340

    Galaxy
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    The server was at 17 tps (Markusi said) and I was mining out a room and kept getting flagged with that glitch thing(Artis comment) . Also I’m not the fastest typer but myself and many others keep getting told not to spam even though we are just having a conversation in chat or in /msg (This happened with the old system to but wasn’t as drastic). Also the Water thing, Madmonkey said it stopped him from swimming and kicked him for no knockback. Its amazing that the system is working by stopping hackers but its becoming a little annoying by flagging everything.

    Some things that the new anti cheat might be causing. (Not 100% sure)

    Insane Tps lag                                                                                                                                                                                     Turkeyman not being able to climb ladders

    (Ill add anymore problems I find in this post)

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    #49343

    Edori
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    Earlier this morning (9:00am BST)  a few of us were invisible on a raid, and a couple players were “kicked for suspicious activity.”  The server immediately crashed, and came back up 15-20 minutes later.

    Is this something that could have been caused by the new anti-cheat plugin?

    #49352

    Flea
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    My issue: While I was digging with efficiency 5 pickaxe and haste II beacon I got kicked several times for “moving too quickly” and “breaking blocks too fast”.

     

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