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  • #37745
    dagersh
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    In reference to my comment. It was to be taken lightly as I don’t make decisions on such a large case without admin approval. In hindsight I should not have made the comment but that does not excuse the actions of some of the members of a crew that have been hacking.

    Punching baby seals since before it was fun.

    #37753
    GodsDead
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    Im replying as people have tagged me in the post, first of all im not in the loop with the Apple crew, the only interactions I have had, are people reporting hackers in the group, so its always had a negative impact and so I have a bias opinion of the crew.

    The facts I know (I haven’t read the 40 paragraphs of writing, I do not have the time to read everything yet, lets stick to simple facts)

    1. I am not leading the moderation on this case, @dagersh has a far greater grip on the situation than me
    2. I have had previous reports of multiple people from the Apple crew to be hackers
    3. Multiple people have been banned in the past from the Apple crew for hacking
    4. I have the entire chat history of the Apple crew, This can be made available for research into accusations into them talking about using hacks on the server, honestly at this point this just looks terrible.
    5. Everything @MrClusterFluxin is spot on, read his post, I agree with all his points, Seriously Blu you are staff material with this mindset.
    6. From the interactions I have had with @AppleJK (crew leader) AppleJK you seem to be a very active, strong member of the community, your posts on the forums for the maps and effort to be a large community member have not been un-noticed, You come across as someone that wants nothing but postativity with the server and progression. (I have not read your GIANT post yet)

    I will be sitting on the sidelines for this, as @dagersh is taking the helm on this one, its not good to have conflicting moderator roles, I am only replying as people always want to bring me in and tag me in posts, I do read everything, sometimes its better I stay out of moderating (Especially if im not clued in with 100% facts)

    At present there are 81 Members in the “Apple” Crew, this isn’t a small crew, please, again do read MrClusterFluxin post earlier on in the thread.

    For reference crew list of pirates (In alphabetical order):

    Andrew_YT
    AppleJK
    batteria_
    Bersi
    blood_jo
    Blu92
    broodingpoet788
    BurningBlade
    CeramicShip
    CoconutJK
    COLE_007_1
    CreeperAssassin2
    criccu2
    Daileen00
    danieldan4
    dark09ste
    darkdog04
    davidelord
    Dynasty_Uboa
    ekotango51
    EpicGam3r
    Eyung
    Fangy007
    FelixJaeger
    fr3des
    francociccio
    FrankSkaper
    Fypsh
    GamerG201
    General10Doom
    ggbrother
    GoldenFox4
    GOLDEN_CESAR
    hertzap
    ifilms
    imperathor02
    IoAlex1927
    James_Mont
    leoneinleone
    LordDark11
    LordHeroBrine9
    lord_eagle1945
    Loris4577
    Ludan14
    Luke_Screwdriver
    M4RT3S
    MagicFra01
    MagmaGolem
    Mago2004
    MarcoHero
    Mark_Xel
    Martina_chan00
    MattSworder
    MERK_DRAGON_99
    morter
    Oxygen58
    RedstoneM2003
    Richy_March
    Samyesida13
    Scaccogaming
    Scarecrow01
    Selios_
    SHAdow_MOOn001
    Simbad_Tiger
    SpiderDeluxe
    STRAGE82003
    Superetty
    TheMasterHD13
    TheNicky47
    TheSmilingFlea
    TommyDono
    UteNte3turbiNe
    WhiteWolf
    Xavier_VI
    xKingFire
    xRickyCube
    xZeroITA
    Yh0l0
    ZAPPOAVIGNA
    zEddiePlay3r
    zOmis87

     

     

    #37769
    Bislo
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    I’ve been in contact with apple the Government of the BE these last few days to try and figure out why this happened. To my understanding the BE joined up on a hack-bashing against the Apple crew, because it was widely believed that people in that crew were hackers. Apple contacted me to tell his side of the story and I could understand how it was out of his hands. Two players or how many idk, where suspected hakcers, evidence or not.. His crew has 80 some members so it is hard to control everyone and know who is playing fair and who isn’t. I also have problems keeping track of everyone in BE. It’s impossible, I rely on the ministers to do a good job, If they don’t, then it reflects on the crew directly and the forums are filled with “BE killing everyone” seconds later.. So I understand how apple feel and I truly think it’s unfair to hate the entire crew because of a few hackers within the ranks.

    I have told the government to not actively hunt apple members, I have told them to report the hackers if they so needed to act on this. I told them to stay away from apples lands, because I don’t want anything to do with it. It doesn’t do good to kill hackers, cuz they are still hackers – report them instead and let staff lead the investigation.

    I’m sorry if this post looks like a strike against the apple crew. I am aware of some personal vendettas from within, interfering and making this situation hard to resolve, but I can say that the BE as a crew, will not act aggressive towards JuiceKings from this point on. I have stated that, so if I hear anything, then the offenders will be punished according to our regular “BE pvp laws”. Offenders can be reported in the british embassy group, remember to follow the instructions in the appropriate post.

     

    Founder of Port Hope

    #37816
    Deathtoll_
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    I would love to let staff do there jobs and investigate the hackers. But its nearly impossible for one to get on. And even if a staff member did get online its almost impossible to get actual evidence of them hacking. Unless they catch them at the right time to get a debug with F3.

    http://www.nodiatis.com/pub/23.jpg

    Proud member of the British Empire.
    Also known as Salty_Shay 🙂

    #37878
    Crazy Pirate
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    Can I just interject? I’ve been away for a lads week, and just want to clear up any drama, and explain my role in the whole thing. No big, 10,000 word dissertations, just trying to add some clarity and backstory.

    As we all know, for some time, many members of Apple’s crew have been suspected of hacks. Sadly, its inevitable that some people do hack, and so the server responded accordingly, by raiding JuiceKings. Now, I’m not going to argue if this is justified, but it happened.

    Many members of the BE also helped. If a friend tells you they are being overwhelmed by hackers, you help them. And so the BE, as authorised by senior officials online, aided our allies against those we suspected (with good reason) of using hacks. Its the decent thing to do.

    Now, bislo comes back from 2 weeks away, and tells us Apple is off limits, and anyone caught attacking them will be stripped of all rank, and kicked from the BE. This sparks a lot of discussion in our government group, and it is revealed to us that Apple claimed to have evidence that would get some BE members a temp ban.

    Many officials, myself included, came to the following conclusions. Firstly, that is blackmail, and we should respond aggressively, against such a ‘low blow’. Secondly, if such evidence truly exists, we should not protect those individuals; being part of the BE shouldn’t make someone above the rules, and as such, we believed that Apple should create a proper report, and we would support him.

    Needless to say, such a report never materialized.

    Regardless, bislo linked us to an imgur album, which showed a number of screens that supposedly showed how evil the BE was, etc, etc, etc.

    So a little in depth reading later, and I was able to conclude the following (using google translate):

    1) A member of Apple’s crew admitted to using hacks in /c

    2) Apple saw this, and failed to report this. Rather, he had the audacity to include it in a folder he planned to blackmail the BE in. Karma, bitch.

    3) Other crew members saw this, and failed to report.

    4) Nobody told this guy off in /c

    5) This guy wasn’t kicked from the crew

    6) A crew member told him to keep the hacks hidden

    7) This was also seen by Apple, who failed to report

    8) This was also seen by other crew members, who, guess what, failed to report

    9) Nobody told this guy off either

    10) He’s also still in the crew

     

    So what does this all tell us? That within Apple, there is a culture where hacks are readily accepted. If such an event were to occur within the BE, and I were to witness it, I would write up the report myself. It shows us Apple is aware members of his crew hacks, despite arguing repeatedly against this in the forums. It shows us that crew members don’t stand against hacking and cheats, but rather, encourage it and support it. It shows us that they are unwilling to follow server rules, and that everyone in that crew, online at the time, made a deliberate decision not to report a hacker, because they shared a little prefix before their gamer tag.

    It shows us there are hackers in Apple, and that there are likely more, since this is clearly accepted. It shows us that blackmail is acceptable in the eyes of Applejk. It also provides the most potent example of pure karma ever, where he actually incriminates himself and his crewmates whilst attempting to blackmail the BE. It shows us that they are so confident, that indeed, he is so confident, he is willing to provide evidence of hacks in blackmail, assuming I couldn’t be arsed to translate it.

    In short, it shows us a hell of a lot. If you’ve just skimmed down here, go up, and hopefully it might clear things up for you. But I for one, regardless of the official BE verdict, will hunt hackers regardless of crew, and will by extension hunt anyone who provides them with shelter and the means to do further harm.

    #OperationAppleCrumble – Because justice tastes sweet 😛

    #37879
    Crazy Pirate
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    Also, in case you couldn’t tell, I’m super proud of myself for spotting this 😛

    #37881
    __Recoil__
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    @crazy

    Well written, maybe you’d care to join me and build on our next little ‘excursion’ to their base?

    ~Privateer for the 13c

    #37882
    CaptainCracken
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    eyyy crazy is back :3

    -CaptainCracken

    https://www.minecraftskinstealer.com/achievement/a.php?i=5&h=Hey+Big+Spender&t=Spend+Over+%242k+on+Food[/url]

    #37883
    Jammin_Mas
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    Well said crazy, finally something in this makes sense.

    A endermite kicked my ass

    #37888
    iOdiwanKenobi
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    Well, I am sick to death of all this @JavaInvader @__recoil__ and @minecraft_1999 let’s kill them all again >:D I’m allied to BE and all that too, SO WE CAN KILL THEM ALL TOGETHER!

    Ironic

    #37889
    Apple
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    It looks like CrazyPirate didn’t read a word of my defense. My comment responds already to all the points you have made.

    #37892
    OfficialRS
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    @CrazyPirate1 sorry to burst your bubble (lol) but Apple made true in his defence that while the BE and allies were attacking, Apple was in the process of trying to sort the problem out with BE members like Shay and Keto, and because of that, was made oblivious of the hackers in his crew and the chat in which the hackers were discussing their hacks.

     

    ToxicKingRS,

    Leader of the Verussian Empire and the country Verussia.

    #37895
    Crazy Pirate
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    @crazypirate1 sorry to burst your bubble (lol) but Apple made true in his defence that while the BE and allies were attacking, Apple was in the process of trying to sort the problem out with BE members like Shay and Keto, and because of that, was made oblivious of the hackers in his crew and the chat in which the hackers were discussing their hacks.

    Yeah, I saw the video too, and it was bloody obvious to me that they were discussing hacks, even though it isn’t my mother tongue. I’d also work on the assumption that if your crew were beaing attacked, you’d look in crew chat for updates and to make a plan?

    Not only that, but surely Apple rewatched the video? And he paused at that point to take screens; you mean to tell me he didn’t see it then? Someone needs their eyes tested :/

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