SpiderDeluxe : Banned For "Idiot"

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  • #47243

    SpiderDe
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    Hello,
    sorry for the disturb, I’m SpiderDeluxe a player from Italy who has played at PirateCraft for over a year.

    This afternoon I tried to contact CallieMav since a friend of mine was banned permanently for not respecting a rule. We are forgein players and I know that this is not a justification in fact I asked at the staffer if he could reduce the penalty, he started to offend us saying that “ignorance couldn’t be forgiven”. I was trying to help a friend, because this is humanity and since I tried to talk to this person he banned me for Idiot. I think this is a right recommendation, because it’s not fair not to have the possibility to talk to a member of the stuff if we don’t say what he wants to hear. I don’t care to play here if the treatment must be this one.

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    #47250

    MrDork
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    Just have backup to this story cause there will probably be another version.

     

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    #47253

    SpiderDe
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    thank you for your replay, unfortunately I couldn’t do screenshots since I couldn’t imagine he would have this behavior to me… if there’s a way to fix this problem, I would appreciate, otherwise it never minds, I just wanted to report this action because in general it’s not polite to anyone.

     

    #47255

    Astrobolt
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    Im banned for that too

    No, Sticksrocks, you are not. First, it appears someone messed up the syntax while banning you, but that is something you should have found out yourself…

    Second, you were banned for harassing a player in game non-stop. (Saying incredibly innapropriate and not true things about them that should never be tolerated) I know it’s not my decision but I hope you do not come back, @sticksrocks.

    As for you, @spiderdelux, if what you say is true then I wish you the best of luck in your request.

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    #47258

    Calliemav
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    Well considering you only seem to put in the bits of info that make you shine.

    Oh, and not reading a servers rules and getting in trouble then asking if you can be “special” and just be forgiven is ignorance. Btw that is not an insult, rather a fact. In any situation, in game or not. Try that move with your local Authorities after breaking a law and tell me how they handle it. I am sure they would like the laugh. You and whom ever you wanted unbanned came to an english server and yet didnt take time to read up on rules. You can translate the rules page in a variety of ways. Not to mention the fact of the in game commands for the rules. Oh wait and the Missive that randomly spams people with rules and Links. So no ..your total lack of effort to not cheat/break rules is on you and your friend.

    Enjoy the time off. Perhaps think things over, like approach.

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    Bislo
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    I might be off when intervening in this, but when I read through this I kind of get a bit frightened.

    I haven’t seen the whole log and if I had my opinion might be different, but right now it looks as though spider was asking out of ignorance, yes, but I to be quite honest, don’t think it is fair to put a Perma Ban on him for inquiring about his friend. bottom line is that this guy had done nothing wrong, but contacting staff resulted in a permanent ban.. Seems harsh to me and really makes me less reluctant to take contact to staff in the future, out of fear that I might say something wrong and piss someone off, thus resulting in a similar punishment..

    I do generally think staff has become a bit harsh, I understand it’s annoying to be asked these sort of stuff, but you did apply for the job yourself to be fair.. You do this because you love the server, just like the rest of us.

    Idk, It really just seem as though there can be some moments of “over execution” of power, I mean.. these guys are new to the server, yeah? so being ignorant is unavoidable. I didn’t know all rules when I first joined and I’m sure no one did…

    I actually think this is a reoccurring issue.. and I say this because I do get concerned a bit, as I said, I might be off.. maybe i don’t know the bigger picture, so correct me if wrong, but i think there should be some sort of focus on newer players and take into consideration that they are new and not just kick them straight out… They could end up being great players long term

    Founder of Port Hope

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    Well considering you only seem to put in the bits of info that make you shine.

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    #47291

    PaulOnFire
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    People who do appeals tend to spin the story in their favour whilst making the mods look cruel and unfair. This alone is usually a very good sign not to let them back on the server.

    One must be very careful when issuing a permanent ban. In general it is only applied when someone has three red cards or has breached a very serious rule, such as no hacking. In general I trust the decisions the staff make, as they have a lot of experience and because we, the players, rarely know the full story behind the ban.

    In this case we do not know which rule SpiderDeluxe’s friend broke. If it was a serious rule which SpiderDeluxe was helping him to hide, then the staff would be more than justified in punishing him as well.

    Enjoy the time off. Perhaps think things over, like approach.

    Reading this from @calliemav makes me wonder: Were you intending for the ban to be temporary? Because the screenshot in the first post shows that it is a permanent ban.

    #47293

    Crazy Pirate
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    So, I’m assuming the rule break here was speaking in a different language? Or that friend A was banned for something, and friend B asked why, thus earning him a permanent ban?

    You and whom ever you wanted unbanned came to an english server and yet didnt take time to read up on rules. You can translate the rules page in a variety of ways.

    No response here has yet clarified what rule player A broke and why he was banned, or the rule that player B broke or why he was banned. It seems that the latter was ignorant and asked staff to forgive him on the grounds that he didn’t understand the rules due to him being foreign, but it seems a little harsh to permanently ban someone, who just wanted to understand what their friend did wrong, or if the punishment could be less severe.

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    #47295

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    the ban being permanent is also what ticks me off.. Again, I don’t know the full story, but to perma ban a guy for asking a rule that is required for him to know seems too much. Idk if he has done something else in the past, but I would like to ask that be explained.

    In my opinion it is not mature, nor is it sufficient to ban a player with the tag “idiot”.. why not “banned for breaking rule no. # and being rude to staff” or whatever he did… It’s not only callie, I’m just referring to what I see in the screenshot in this situation – I see these sort of messages all across the board when I have previously looked in the punishment checker.

    I’m not trying to bring uproar and call the staff incompetent – it has nothing to do with that, I can also be an idiot towards others on the server, because generally I do feel the tone and attitude most players on this server have is quite above rude and it takes you off guard sometimes. BUT when I look at staff, I want to see people raised above that.. At least when they are on duty. I understand it can be frustrating, but it really sends a bad signal throughout the server, when it is okay for our staff to act like this, it reflects back so players think its fine to act tough and go all out on those who fuck up. I get it, but people also make mistakes sometimes and I really think staff could try to keep their cool more often.. I know I’ve been yelled at a few times in the past, where I was left with a feeling of “wow, this escalated from 0 to 100 real fast.. “. I never tend to speak out about how I feel about staff and I think generally most people are kind of afraid of some sort of backlash resulting in a ban when doing so. I just don’t think people should be afraid to raise concerns, if those concerns might be a bit “stupid, you should have known that”.. also concerns about staff in general, like this one, tends to be looked upon with disgust. I don’t speak out to frame nor belittle anyone.. I do it because I think the way the staff team is moving is a bit too much and I want to bring it to discussion when I see this ban.
    I know you guys want all the best for the server, but that alone is not what makes a good staff member, being caring and listening to people, helping even though its fucking common sense. even though the guy is annoying you, you don’t call him an idiot or whatever.. I don’t know if that’s just me, but the tension is just building up inside. You guys do a good job, but the rudeness and attitude, I don’t think that ever fit on a member of staff in any organisation, small business, whatever, NOR a minecraft server… Godsy might be fine with this and it’s his server, no doubt, but I feel its too much. Hate me for it, blame me back for not understanding how it is to deal with idiots every day. I just honestly think I’m not the only one who think this could be improved. It’s All up to staff to change this behavior, because people actually look to you guys and mirror what they see, because on a minecraft server, the staff is someone to look up to for most new and older players.

    I just generally get pissed when I see these cocky ban justifications, because in no way as a staff member can you justify a Permanent ban with “idiot” in my opinion, just like that, first strike, no chances? he was a clean dude up until his encounter with callie, right?. You guys get tired of idiots, but you of all guys should strive to be prime examples of how a good player should act towards others. I have no clue how I can say this without sounding demeaning and rude, but someone has to take the fall if that’s what it takes.. I’m well aware people before me have been banned for criticizing staff, but I really hope you guys can understand I’m not saying this out of evil. I just don’t agree anymore with the way some incidents are handled, this one being one of them, thus why I’m voicing it here..

    Founder of Port Hope

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