[discussion] For when we move to 1.13, Copying over claims & whats inside them.
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Now 1.13 is still a long way off as so many plugins are still broken, I’m waiting on developers to fix some of our core plugins before we can move, but for the time being lets talk JUST about land regeneration and terrain.
I already had 2 ideas for how we would regenerate land to have 1.13 terrain which were:
- We have a plugin that can regenerate all un-claimed griefprevention chunks, At present we are waiting for a fix for it to work with 1.13. What it would do is create new fresh terrain in chunks that are:
- Haven’t had anyone in that chunk in X amount of time
- The chunk does not have a GP claim or WG claim made by player or staff in it, these would be fully un-changed.
- Another option is more manual, I started adding “regions” to the live map, on the live map page, if you hover over the layers tab you can select the regions, and there would be a process to request an entire region be regenerated to fresh terrain.
But we now have a third option, I have been talking to some server owners and developers that are in the same situation and a custom plugin is in the making for a different type of fresh world, but keeping claims & whats in them, this is what I wan to talk about.
The idea is simple, pre-generate a completely fresh 1.13 world with the same seed as our current world, Then run this new plugin to copy over all claimed areas from a backup of our main overworld, the idea with this is that the entire would be instantly a fresh new 1.13 world, but anything that has been claimed would be saved and copied over! So there would be no need to regen anything as the entire world would be fresh! So far the only negatives of this I can think of is:
- People have made things they haven’t claimed
- I will need to manually copy over all admin claimed areas (Not a big deal, only take a few hours)
This would mean all the seas are completly fresh with all the new sea terrain in one go, but we loose all the old shipwrecks rip, we would need to have some ship battles and sink some more =D if you have any worries with this concept, this is the time to leave a message! Open to all options, like we could give everyone X amount of claim blocks to claim that one bit of land you need for example.
Manually checking regions instead of allowing a plugin to do it automatically sounds much safer, in case the plugin decides to go rogue or similar.
Well, I mean I would test it first and give people a week to check. Lol, what do you think im new to this admin business or something? lego please.
For Option 3, I think having a brand new fresh world for 1.13 would be great, even if it means losing our home-made shipwrecks while keeping everything we already own.
This is what im leaning towards, so much of the world has been turned to shit over the 5 years or so we’ve had it, this would legit be amazing refresh AND peolpe get to keep all their stuff (if its claimed) If you want to keep a specific shipwreck, just claim it, that simple. No other input needed.
Remember: We have admin claims too, this could easily be a task to claim land we don’t want fresh.
if it works, No 3 is my go-too solution, and its being developed right now, so if you have any ideas of what could go wrong please tell me now.
I like option 3, but I’m wondering if it will also copy entities. A large amount of players have villagers, animals, item frames, etc. that can be very time consuming to replace.
Yeah it’ll be a direct copy using Worldedit tools, as WE copies entities, it will copy anything inside a claim, if they are outside a claim it will not.
I think option 3 would be great. The current world has accumulated a lot of clutter over the years, particularly the oceans and spawn area. I had a few questions/issues though: 1. Would it be possible to filter out some of the abandoned claims to free up land for new and existing players? (Old deckie bases, bases of banned players etc?) 2. I can see an issue arising where players might have terraformed an area near their base but not within a claim (or someone else might have in the past) that reverts to its old state. I realise this comes under claimed land, but its often unclear what is original terrain, while a house is quite obvious. But, maybe this is a just a price some will have to pay for the new world?
Yup, if they terraformed land and they have not claimed it, it will revert, obviously lol, they just need to claim it.
So far its only positives I can think of doing it this way.
How would that work… Wouldnt some claims end up in water because if it is new land & terrain wouldn’t that change where your claim would be and would some claims end up underground
Did you not read the bit where I said SAME SEED? The terrain generates exactly the same, just using the new generator.
This is quite interesting I have spent a great deal of time terraforming land around Isengard and some of my other bases. I would like it if we could request for staff to pre-ouline areas that players bring to staffs attention to not be totally regened. I think this would solve the problem of regening and loosing terraformed land. Or it all gets regened and players are stuck with redoing all the terraforming they did before. : {
Claim it. its that simple.
I’m going to try and figure out the third option, im working with 2 developers to try and get a custom plugin made to do this at present, For the sake of some crappy roads that can be re-made, I think it will be a major re-fresh of the server. I will try and get #3 to work 🙂
- We have a plugin that can regenerate all un-claimed griefprevention chunks, At present we are waiting for a fix for it to work with 1.13. What it would do is create new fresh terrain in chunks that are:
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