[Declaration of war]
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August 17, 2016 at 2:51 am #39521
Shay, Browe was still there. Browe went jumped into help you and I followed. Browe helped you get. Thinking you where coming back to help. But you didn’t, so I helped Browe get out who came back with xp and pots. But I got completely trapped and died.
August 17, 2016 at 2:53 am #39522Shay, thats is incorrect. You idiotically fell in the trap despite my warnings, and demanded we jump down to help. We obliged and jumped down to save you.
After they started blocking us in and bow spamming, I was able to get free from a trapped spot, which used to get xp for mending for you, galaxy and myself. I returned and mended your armour and pushed Heart back off you long enough for you to tp out of the trap spot you were in.
instead of returning like I did, you left and never returned. Galaxy was killed in the trap, i jumped on his gear to get as much as I could before I tp’d away. I was the last one to leave, you were the first despite the mess being entirely your own fault.
Cysteen can testify to my return because she tp’d to me halfway back to lend me stacks of xp.
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~ Original owner of HMS Sovereign (Phantom Sovereign) ~August 17, 2016 at 3:10 am #39525I have no interest in being part of the arguments here, but I will say I did in fact help browe_ with the exp. there was a nasty storm irl for me at the time or id have been there to help with melee/ranged support, but since I couldn’t for fear of lagging out, the most I was able to do was to tp in and give browe all the exp stacks I had on me.
don’t bother trying to include me into any more arguments here, because I have no interest in replying after this.
If I had a nickel for every time I, Ooo hey, a butterfly!! *runs off chasing the butterfly*
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- A Proud Member of The Asylum-August 17, 2016 at 3:18 am #39526Yeh if we were so much of a waste of time and resources just be on your way. And now you made a server shock.
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Also known as Salty_Shay 🙂August 17, 2016 at 3:25 am #39527AnonymousInactive- Topics: 3
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My crew, ATHF, will not be taking part in this as we have real life commitments and we will not fight our friend Galaxy219 or our former crew the British Empire.
August 17, 2016 at 6:03 am #39539Just thought this would be kind of fitting. But I found a video of the last time a pirate crew or some non empire crew declared war on An empire and the way they reacted
does that explain all the negative feedback on the war declaration?
also not gonna lie. That would have probably been me about a year ago if I heard this happened
Dear lord was I cringey when I was 14
August 17, 2016 at 6:30 am #39540would also like to leave my crew, TAS, out of these conflicts as well as much as possible. any actions from individuals are not actions on behalf of the crew, but actions made by the individual. (meaning if I show up to back up Templars, don’t get salty and think it’s my whole crew ready to go and fight).
I do enjoy a little fight here and there, but id like to see that my non pvpers don’t get swarmed by KDR-hungry noob killers.
If I had a nickel for every time I, Ooo hey, a butterfly!! *runs off chasing the butterfly*
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- A Proud Member of The Asylum-August 17, 2016 at 9:00 am #39541After reading Allidoisdig1234’s “reasons” for declaring war, I feel the need to point out that they’re all absolutely ridiculous. Sorry if I formulate this too harsh, man. ._.
Q: your recruitment system is ridiculous. How do you know you haven’t recruited a spy into your crew
A: You can bet your boots every big crew on the server has spies in it. There’s no 100% “safe” way to screen recruits and our crew has nothing to hide. Our forums are visible to all as well. Why is this even a reason that dignifies war?Q: your crew is apparently active? Overall you have the largest total time of inactive members on the server. Some people were about To quit when I left the server in 2014 that joined YOUR CREW before leaving. And you still keep them for what reason? Which leads me to my next point
A: Yes, because we have had hundreds of members in our crew who are no longer around. But it’s not true that we keep everyone. We have to cull the ranks regularly. And because of the new crew member cap, we have to kick someone every time a new recruit joins. Again, this doesn’t sound like a reason to declare war. It sounds more like the size of our crew annoys you?Q: you are afraid to kick your own crew members. Some of your crew members which I will refrain from mentioning you refuse to kick even though they are weighing you down, but you won’t kick them because they might attack you for it. What kind of loyal crew member would make you worry about that?
A: Incorrect. We have kicked loads of members in the past. If there’s general consensus that someone must go, they’ll go. We’re also not going to let outsiders dictate who belongs in our crew or not, if that’s what you’re trying to achieve?Q: why are you so much against war? The only true pirate crews on this server have been the ones that dominate the “empires”. You know what this proves in my opinion? That the crew members in the empires are weak. CoV went to war with elves and won in LESS THAN A DAY. This brings me back to my point on recruiting good crew members. Not tons of bad ones.
A: So your casus belli for declaring war is that we as a crew don’t go around declaring wars and attacking random people? Also, you might remember that CoV unexpectedly fell within a week after pretty much the whole server declared war against them. Wars usually go on forever, however, and don’t really achieve much apart from generating drama.Q: There are too many alliances on the server. We decided to go to war because there is too much allying and “holding hands” as some people would put it. It’s only a matter of time before someone knocks over the house of cards. An alliance is only as good as the benefits both sides receive. If both sides receive nothing, an alliance is pointless. Which is partially why we broke the one with you. We can’t count on help from your crew members. As browe said. Shay RAN leaving one of our crew members to die after almost NO risk of losing.
A: I can’t comment on what Shay did because I’m not informed, but I do know we’ve fought alongside you many times. If you’re pinning the blame for losing trust in us on one player, I would argue that it’s not him who lies at fault, but yourself for not looking at the bigger picture nor seeking direct dialogue. As for the house of cards analogy, ever since western nations have come to work together IRL, our quality of life has increased and we have not suffered any more devastating world wars. I would not want us to break off our allegiances IRL, and because I find this a good, sensible way of thinking, I do not want us to break off allegiances in PC either.If I were in Templar, I would consider about stopping this drama and instead organising a tournament or something like someone else mentioned. C’mon, there are OLYPMICS going on IRL atm! Why not do that? 😛
August 17, 2016 at 9:47 am #39551I like alot of templars members.
And i never killed or attacked ice.
But yes i did blow up liths land and im sorry for this and i already appologized and gave him a gift bc ily lith <3
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August 17, 2016 at 10:25 am #39553Wow, paul beat me to the post with that excellent reply.
@chailey this isn’t a stab at you, but just making a point here. I’m not going to bother contesting this decision, but I think the community needs to know the following.Most of the reasons listed by Templar are rubbish. Alli, for example, thinks a just reason for war is because of the way we recruit people, and because we have a large member count. Browe thinks that a large god battle is fun, and so as we are one of the few crews with many members, and much god, that we should be at war. But most importantly, they all think that a good reason for declaring war is because it will be fun.
Now, all I can ask is this. If a reason for declaring war was because it was something fun that you wanted to do, did you really do everything to avoid it?
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You must be logged in to view attached files.August 17, 2016 at 1:01 pm #39571Yes browe I said the I didn’t like BE but I wasn’t pointing at the whole crew, after reading your bs rules and causes for war I felt sorrow for many BE members who are my friends.
I mean here is a crew made of MOSTLY BE MEMBERS that declares war back on their original crew…seems outrageous to me.
You have lost my respect…
A endermite kicked my ass
August 17, 2016 at 1:15 pm #39574and alli, about our recruitment ways, i honestly dont understand why it bothers you…
1. we arent poaching your members
2. we ask noobs if they want to join us, its their decision and we arent forcing them in the slightest
3. you arent in our crew.
as i told u in PMs, if you arent affected by this at all, then please do ignore it if it annoys you.
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August 17, 2016 at 2:11 pm #39576This is pretty silly that you just declared war for the hell of it.
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Also known as Salty_Shay 🙂August 17, 2016 at 7:38 pm #39588Hold up…
As far as I’m concerned, I’m here looking at a post for war because one member (Shay) refused to help an ally (Browe and Galaxy) after they saved him from dying. If this was indirectly caused, maybe (Templars) ask the BE to maybe get some payment after saving Shay and indirectly causing Galaxy to die? Because honestly, war sucks, people die, items are at loss, get what I mean? I just don’t wanna see anyone hurt because both sides contain lots of good friends of mine
Founder of the Coalition
August 17, 2016 at 8:04 pm #39590Although we could have handled this with more diplomacy, several of the Templars held grudges after BE members disregarded the alliance at no cost to them. Several have lost gear when “no one could find their items” after they were attacked (…by allies. People seem to forget allies shouldn’t be killing each other?!). And after bringing the instances to BE’s attention with little result why not settle it with war?
Of course Templars weren’t totally opposed to the idea, I really enjoyed your siege on my fort today and it was nice to see the big crew battles and sieges this server doesn’t experience for the most part.
However it seems the BE have jumped on the comment that we want the war to be fun as if it negates the reasons for declaration. The alliance was treated with disdain too many times and cost some of our members items. Why should it just be settled by us walking away? BE should be held accountable for their actions. I only wished to make clear that whilst in the spirit of role-play our crews were opposed, we all still have plenty of friends in the BE who we hope realise this is a game.
Yes Crazy part of the reason we chose war instead of neutrality is that BE has enough God pvpers to handle itself. This is a game after all, so why not have a fun war to settle things instead of other options?
People need to stop being quite as salty.
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~ Former Admiral in the British Empire ~
~ Founder of Phantom ~
~ Co-Founder of Templars ~
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