Banned for not sharing information that could be used to hack me.

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  • #45354
    zandad
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    I couldn’t find a ban appeal thread, so I decided to blow the whistle here. I was playing on piratecraft on december 29 2016 when an admin (Username started with a T, may have been Thymen? I’m not sure, I was a bit distracted by the messages they were sending me) sent me the message that if I did not provide a screenshot of my F3 then I would be banned. As far as I know, the information inside of the F3 could be used to hack me, so I was not going to give a screenshot without doing some reaserch first. If the alternative to handing information over to who could be a social engineer was to be a ban, then fine. Ban Me. After saying so, I was permanently banned for “using a modded client.” I was NOT using ANY sort of “modded client” and I believe that this admin likely decided that I must have been because I was not willing to give a screenshot. It is also possible that this admin was just being a general social engineer, trying to get information that could be used to hack me. I would appreciate it if this matter is looked into.

     

    To the admin that banned me:

    If you truly believe that I was “using a modded client” then maybe you should consider the fact that most people aren’t going to give you information when they do not know if it could be used to hack them. If you were looking to hack me, ban yourself script kiddy.

     

     

    #45356
    Goldieh
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    I’m curious to know how your f3 could be used to hack you

    #45357
    zandad
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    The point is that I don’t know whether or not it could be used to hack me. I do know that things have come up in the past where people would be able to log in as you as long as you stayed online using information from somewhere. This is supported by when I was told I would be banned if I quit.

    #45359
    koi001
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    Hello Zandad! I’m happy to say that I might have some useful info on your situation. The method that they use to test people for hacks on this server is to rush them in MSG and request that they send a screenshot of their F3. The reason for this is because if your not extremely sneaky about it then your F3 will present itself as a modded client. The staff use this tactic as almost a rush thing. In the event that you are unable to provide a screenshot you become banned in my experience. However I will say this, “The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence.” Good luck man!

    #45360
    Creepermorderen
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    Worst. Attitude. Ever.

    No! Your “f3” can’t be used to hack you. If you won’t send a screenshot it’s most likely because you have hacks.

    And there’s by the way no admim on Piratecraft that starts with “T”

    Staff asks for a screenshot of your “f3” because that’s a way to prove you do/do not have hacks. If you won’t send a screenshot youmight have your reasons.

    Have a good day.

    #45361
    Blu Pearson
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    Zandad, that is standard procedure to ask for the f3 screen for proof of not using a hacked client. Normally refusal to do so brings suspicion even higher and is considered as non compliance when asked by a mod or admin. So when this occurs the player is banned until further investigation.

    The f3 screen shows no information that can be used to hack your computer as it only pertains to the Minecraft environment and general specs of the computer but nothing that reveals any personal information.

    I hope this clears up the situation for you. Also this is not the place to level accusations about staff. that should be done in a pm to one of the other admins or godsdead.

    All staff are working for free using their free time to help make the server a fun and safe place for all players. They also work extremely hard on the technical side of things nobody ever knows about so the server and the plugins run as smooth as possible.

    I know its no fun to be in this situation but you could have avoided it by giving the f3 proving your innocents. Its not up to me to determine what happens from here out but humility and respect go much further than accusation and jackassyness.

    #45363
    zandad
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    I should not have accused anybody of being a script kiddy, and I am sorry for that. My point still stands however that at the time I did not know whether or not it could be used to hack me.

    #45366
    Wadsworth
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    @wafflescripter listen, Zandad, I get what you’re saying, but surely anyone who even knows what a Script Kiddy is would know there’s nothing that can be used to infiltrate your computer, I take personal privacy very seriously as quite a few people know, but these admins are just trying to keep the server fair and glitch-free, if you were afraid what they were doing was going to endanger your security, you should have calmly explained to the admin that they are making you feel uncomfortable asking for such information, as you don’t know what information that could contain, after that i am sure they would have explained to you that there are small details in a player’s F3 that can tell them if they are using a hacked client or not. After that, as long as you provided screenshots in a timely fashion, say, a minute, minute thirty, then they would be reasonably comfortable with you and suspicion would no longer exist.

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    #45368
    Hatter
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    @GodsDead

    We have a problem needing resolving, Gods.

    So, from the look of things, the issue is that you (Zandad) refused to give screenshots, for the reason that you were, fairly enough, unsure if it could give away vital information about your computer.
    Therefore, a screenshot right now would be inadequate evidence that you weren’t hacking, so we don’t know if you’re guilty or innocent. But, innocent until proven guilty, right?
    Now, why was an admin (if they see this, please tell us who you are) asking for a screenshot of your f3? Why would they suspect that you were hacking?

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    #45371
    ProWil
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    @MadHatterSupreme uh, I dont think you understand this.
    A screesnhot of your f3 is a effective and accurate way of concluding whether someone is using a hacking client. It shows up on your mods, (at the top left) to disclose whether you are hacking or not.
    In most cases, it is great for use, although may seem confusing to some new(er)players and/or the unexperienced ones.
    If you had read the replies that followed this post, it would of provided adequate evidence to your questions.

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    #45373
    GodsDead
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    @godsdead We have a problem needing resolving, Gods. So, from the look of things, the issue is that you (Zandad) refused to give screenshots, for the reason that you were, fairly enough, unsure if it could give away vital information about your computer. Therefore, a screenshot right now would be inadequate evidence that you weren’t hacking, so we don’t know if you’re guilty or innocent. But, innocent until proven guilty, right? Now, why was an admin (if they see this, please tell us who you are) asking for a screenshot of your f3? Why would they suspect that you were hacking?

    What? Stop talking out your ass.


    @MadHatterSupreme
    staff have dealt with a cheater on the server, we do not tolerate;

    1. Cheaters, that ruin the server for others
    2. People that try and go over other staffs decisions by “summoning” the owner just because they disagree/are trying to bypass a staff decision, “We have a problem needing resolving, Gods.” yeah its your attitude mate.
    3. Just general rudeness.

    I will not tolerate this behavior, at all from either of you, so since you “summoned” me MadHatterSupreme to “deal” with this, I will.


    @wafflescripter
    You got flagged by the anti-cheat systems, so in turn staff asked for a F3 screenshot, you didn’t comply as you know you use a cheating client and this would give you up. So you were banned for further research and to let staff talk about the situation you caused, all staff have seen your message here and have agreed that this is the end of the line for you.

    Since I was “summoned” by @MadHatterSupreme when you have already had a reply from a staff member that clearly and calmly told you precisely the situation that was caused by your friend, Im saying No, there is no unban request procedure here, the procedure is “Don’t cheat, Don’t be rude and Don’t disrespect staff or players” the fact I see all three of these things means I don’t want you playing here wafflescripter.

    Closed.

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