Tonight's current events between SPQR and BE.

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  • #36463
    OfficialRS
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    Today’s events could only be described as abhorrent, I was shock and even the little ‘allies’ I had left were shocked…

    It started when my crew had happily anticipated a surge of new actives into our crew-which was then met with confrontational controversy. A huge squadron of British troops stormed into Rome and killed a sizeable amount of our members, claiming to be after one ‘Maiz_’ despite them murdering and even going as far as sieging parts of the city.  Their claim was that Maaiz_ had attacked them minutes before and that they had followed him into Rome? Highly unlikely as Maiz_ was with Deadpan and Buck whilst they came. Unless screenshots can prove otherwise.

    The attack lasted quite a while and our so called ‘alliances’ were put on question. They then decided to siege Kanto Palace. (Xxatu’s place) not in doubt of another reason other than to kill Maiz_ because he was on the other end of the map!

    Now the point of this forum is not only for the sake of my crew, to correct the errors of the BE and to further ask what is going on with the status of our ‘alliance’-surely we are atleast truced or even more than so to be part of the LoN-FNA coms (not any more I know, but not much has changed since then).

    I would also like to say that I am even more disappointed to have such an incident come at a time where Verussia is starting to build itself up and when we are especially trying to become a democracy which is supposedly allianged with your goals. Not that the BE reflected any aspect of democracy in these events. I would never call that democratic…

    (I will post screenshots later along with a list of the people involved-Unless my crews mate could do that). @Wilson @Buckmaster @Chasedillion @Xxatu

     

    ToxicKingRS,

    Leader of the Verussian Empire and the country Verussia.

    #36464
    _Augustus_Caesar
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    This is all true.  But would also like to add that a high standing member of BE did put a stop to it.

    Founder and Princeps Civitas of SPQR.
    Owner of the city of Rome.
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    MAD AS A HATTER!!!
    Nos Ava Caesar Morituri te Salutamus!

    #36465
    Anonymous
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    _Maiz_ caused this whole thing, as he was creeping around Raven228’s base and we fired warning shots at him and when he didn’t leave we chased him out, eventually chasing him into S.P.Q.R. territory (which is where _Maiz_ started his “sailing trip” to Raven’s base). When we finally caught up to _Miaz_, we found several S.P.Q.R. troops who opened fire on us so we fought back and killed them. Then they started saying how we were allied to them which is not true (for reference check the BE’s crew profile). Later on many people came there and someone from S.P.Q.R I believe  fired some flaming arrows from a mountain top and he was killed. After that an S.P.Q.R. citizen got a huge bounty hand he was hiding out in xxatu’s place and there was a big rush for his bounty so that explains the siege on xxatu. That is what really happened today.

    #36470
    build1115
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    I’m glad Mr. Croc could clearly explain what happened. I wasn’t there for most of it, but I typed in to help out, and I was looking around, and Maiz and his henchmen opened up a portcullis and started shooting me. After that, idk what happened, it was kinda confusing.

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    #36472
    Deathtoll_
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    I wasn’t involved until BE stormed into Rome. This is where I tried to resolve this conflict but xxatue and some other name that I cannot remember attacked us not once but 2 times and escaped we followed him and xxatue to his base. Now I apologize because my reaction was terrible when xxatue and his friend attacked me and BE twice.

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    Proud member of the British Empire.
    Also known as Salty_Shay 🙂

    #36476
    Crazy Pirate
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    Can I add some further explanation for this?

    _Maiz_ was a leader of Norse, a crew which I personally, and some BE, had been hunting and sieging across the server for a little over 3 hours. He was rude, arrogant, and has a lovely way of twisting words. So, needless to say, we hated him. For 3 hours, the BE were fighting him and his henchmen, and then the SPQR decide to recruit them all.

    Now, if what crocodile says is true, and I have no doubts that it is, _Maiz_ and other SPQR, some likely former Norse, brought this on themselves. You basically accepted our most wanted into your ranks, and from there, they continued to harass and annoy, believing that they had earned themselves some protection. Obviously, they didn’t.

    My suggestion? In future, don’t recruit people who have large crews actively hunting them, don’t recruit people until you really know what they are like, and certainly, don’t use your crew as a safe haven for the criminals of the BE.

    Sorry, but you should have thought this through, and so the fault lies with you on this occasion.

    #36480
    The Queen
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    Both sides were wrong no one is itocent in this. Attacking back in a larger sense does NOT get your point across it only makes it worse for you.

    From talking to Michty this was not ordered on behalf of the British government. It was individuals such as Shay, build, Galaxy, river , croc few others to attack. Now he told me the BE would handle it and I can concur this investigation will be handled greatly.

    Just so you know the knowledge of attacking nations is poor on how it was conducted. The “retaliation” could have been handled in a better way

    I Understand retaliation,

    Using elytras, cannons and other massive tools to attack that fortress was over done.

    It could have been solved rather than a full on attack.

    If you knew you were going into another nations territory that is where you stop and report it not almost cause a war between two major nations and thanks to Michty (great man and really fun to talk to) for being the only BE member on at the time to solve this all, I mean he did an amazing job. I can really say Michty saved it from going any further. 🙂

    i hope everything works for the best.

    BTW: They stole RS God set from killing him or one of people there. I’m sure he can tell you for sure, but that will play a major role in trying to solve all of this.

    Mother and soul protector of the Elven Empire

    #36481
    Jammin_Mas
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    I love how crazy describes me as arrogant and rude…I have been playing on this server for 2 years now and not once have I ever taken my time to annoy others. Now on to the Norse part crazy apparently was “buthurt” that my crew “raided him.” This was only fueld when he fell down my fall trap and spent the 3 hours in a box. To add onto this your crew only made it worse when they pursued me in Rome and sieged my new crew SPQR. Not only did you cause my crew to disband (due to your 4 raides in a row, and threats to join BE or die) ; but you caused me to spend the 5 available hours of playtime I had last night running and sitting in my bunker.

    Throughout this whole issue BE had lied: 1 Saying that my former crew of noobs raided crazy is impossible. 2 saying I came and attacked Raven is false as on map Sir Croc was near him. And 3 they did not just come for me otherwise the siege on the crew home and deaths of new crew members wouldn’t have happend.

    Im not just telling you that BE has lied, but I recomend their police look into the uncharacteristic actions that occurred lastnight.

    I new after cov was defeated that BE and Solis would be evil and attack like them…this was the first of many.

    I would also like to point out that the only people who raided SPQR were the new members.

    A endermite kicked my ass

    #36483
    The Queen
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    The speculation is worse than I really honestly thought. Much of the population of the server came with the term “radicalized BE”

    Now this is just to inform them on how people are labeling the BE. Now people haven’t said it as much but if you go ask around you get a positive yes for them being called that name..

    Mother and soul protector of the Elven Empire

    #36485
    Jammin_Mas
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    Rep they obviously have changed. While the main leaders deny the radicalization, it’s shown in the constant raids they have on former friends. Not only did Norse help in the COV war…but we fueled the supply. I would also like to point out this wasn’t the first BE attack, earlier this week Nadomic and friends sieged us 7 times untill I gave up and logged for the day. For BE to drive a crew that’s new to the ground is uncharacteristic and without a doubt is from the power they got after COV left.

    A endermite kicked my ass

    #36488
    The Queen
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    They have caused no harm to the EE. Meaning we have nothing against them. IF they ever attack on some uncalled for event we will sort it out diplomatically and if that fails our military will be called.

    Knowing our long lasting alliance that will most likely not happen.

    You know I will say they have been a little more hostile in my view (DO NOT GET RUDE OR UPSET)

    But what I will not take and I will do this for any ally is talking trash behind there back and I will tell it how I see it.

    So if any of you come to me wanted to talk bad on then I will not respond.

    I don’t want added drama

    As an acting ally on SPQR there civilians who don’t wish to fight are willing to seek refuge in the Elven empire.

     

    Mother and soul protector of the Elven Empire

    #36492
    Rivvur
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    Let me tell everyone this, I let Shay use my Elytra because I wanted to kill xxatu after he attacked the BE twice after we tried to resolve it peacefully.

     

    And Xxatu, remember  when I was stuck down in the lava moat? I had my elytra on me. 😛

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    Proud former leader of The Coalition
    Former member of build team
    ez got banned
    pirate veteran and yeehaw'er

    Crew history:
    BE, DELTA, CREED, SOLIS, TEMPLAR, PHANTOM, EE, TAS, VPS, CLTN, RoP, STRN, ARES, Horse, Mafia, Hope

    "Many of life's failures are people who did not realize how close they were to success when they gave up." -Thomas Edison

    #36493
    Galaxy
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    Mas are you lieing <span style=”line-height: 1.5;”>to yourself and actually believing your own lies? You came to ravens base because he was the only person who attacked you while you where in Norse, that had captain on. So I was there invisible seeing you block up onto his roof. When I decided to shoot you off. That’s when the chase started we followed you to Rome. When we got there your crew members where defending you so we fought back. Then we seiged so nobody could tp out. Also while the issue was being solved mas was invisible hitting people and starting up new fights. After everything was over we where bombarded by arrows from a high mountain by spqr members. So when you call 2 members of BE and 2 members of Solis liars, believing mas didn’t start this it’s going to get us a little more mad.</span>

    #36495
    Crazy Pirate
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    Rep they obviously have changed. While the main leaders deny the radicalization, it’s shown in the constant raids they have on former friends. Not only did Norse help in the COV war…but we fueled the supply. I would also like to point out this wasn’t the first BE attack, earlier this week Nadomic and friends sieged us 7 times untill I gave up and logged for the day. For BE to drive a crew that’s new to the ground is uncharacteristic and without a doubt is from the power they got after COV left.

    As I recall, it certainly wasn’t the case that you supported us in the CoV war. On the contrary, Vent supported you guys, and you him.

    As for us attacking you? Justified. You insulted us, were generally rude, obnoxious, etc. SPQR then decided to accept you into their ranks, even though it was clear as day we (the BE) had a problem with you. I don’t at all doubt that you provoked the BE further, and I really don’t see how the fault lies with us.

    As for Rep…

    Someone from crew ‘Gamma’ attacks one of your leaders. You lead a long raid on ‘Gamma’, and for three hours, you hunt them across the world, following, attacking, sieging. Needless to say, ‘Gamma’ members are rude to you, and start making accusations. ‘Imma report you’ ‘This is bullying’ ‘HAXORS’. Then, after a long campaign, you win. They disband, and you’re happy.

    But wait! Plot twist! The ‘Fake Empire’ has accepted them all into the crew. ‘Gamma’ are continuing to insult you, worse this time, because they believe this new crew offers them protection. ‘Hahaha we win’ ‘lol cant get us now’.

    Now, you’ve been attacking these guys for ages now, and its apparent to everyone that the EE hate ‘Gamma’. So who in their right mind would recruit them into their crew? Why would a crew, supposedly an ally, recruit people who actively hate the EE, and then provide them with a home? Seems a little off to me.

    So what do you do at this point? Your members clearly want to attack, and so do you. You are very suspicious of the ‘Fake Empire’ ‘s motives, because what sort of ally deliberately recruits from your enemies, and provides them with the means to further attack you? Would you try to talk it out, or would you realise that you can dispense some justice, and get some vengeance?

    The guys and gals who participated in this raid did no wrong, and I’ll be dammed if they are made to suffer for it.

    #36496
    The Queen
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    LETS make something 100% clear crazy. I only invited 2 people who I told WILL pay an debt they have to the BE. Don’t get rude and snappy with me with this disgusting attitude questioning our alliance. I have tried and will continue to uphold the alliance but if Bacon (Oink) and Reverse have any previous debts I’ll see to it the pay.

    Motives?! This is outrages to say we have a motive. Against what? Hm? Because apparently we are always obligated to help in a war and if we aren’t then I guess I guess we wish to see there end.. Wow

    If this refers to the SPQR CIVILIANS! You are all types of wrong. I make it a job of mine to ensure protected of ITOCENT people who have been put in a crossfire. Yes if they participated in any attacks to the BE they will not be accepted but if they want nothing to do with it I will let them in.

    You should really understand that I am not the bad guy here and how you pinned me was all types of wrong. You should really reevaluate how you just did that. I have done nothing but truly to prove the points given and also even stuck up for you people. I don’t deserve such a nasty reply.

    Hope you know crazy that was an active assult on a nation yet they say “oh no it’s not war….”

    So if Pearl Harbor was bombed by Japan… And we attack back that isn’t war?

     

     

    Mother and soul protector of the Elven Empire

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