it would be unfair, well for starters i have been in a fight with 3 long torps and they totlay desimated warships, so plz if ur going to add them nerf them

second it would be fair to have subs have to rise up then take a shot, do we realy want ships taking shots that totaly desimated ships and you cant fight back? some video evedince is 2 armourd skiffs attackng siegers, aa does  nothing bc its armourd and its hard to hit them with a cannon so dont add them

That ship battle looked sick @wiskey_waters

But I can see what you mean @cosmicking, the thing is they’ve talked about adding torpedoes before, but they’d make ‘ship to ship’ combat more stressful than it already is.

What you could do perhaps, is do something maybe along the lines of one of the old U-Boats, with a gun emplacement on the top of the craft, and perhaps make it water proof (last time I checked wet cannons broke?), and maybe have like an area to fire it from/through which is water tight, using perhaps a signs to block water flow.

My idea anyway.

Good Luck.

I agree with Max. Be thankful we have ships that go underwater at all! This isn’t a WWII or futuristic battle server. It’s a pirate server, and pirates have ships; not subs.

NickyB_123 wrote:

I agree with Max. Be thankful we have ships that go underwater at all! This isn’t a WWII or futuristic battle server. It’s a pirate server, and pirates have ships; not subs.

Welllllll…

They didn’t have diamond armor, potions, electricity (redstone), teleportation, respawns, or countless other things that are pretty much necessary to play.

On a side note, submarines did exist in this era. And yes, they were used in combat.

To follow up on what Nicky said; the Golden Age of Piracy, which is about the era we go for on the server, was from the 1650s to 1730s [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Age_of_Piracy]. Even the earliest concept of the military sub (1720) didn’t even make it into actual combat.

“The first military submarine was built in 1720 by carpenter Yefim Nikonov by order of Tsar Peter the Great in Russia. Nikonov armed his submarine with “fire tubes”, weapons akin to flame-throwers. The submarine was designed to approach an enemy vessel, put the ends of the “tubes” out of the water, and blow up the ship with a combustible mixture. In addition, he designed an airlock for aquanauts to come out of the submarine and to destroy the bilge of the ship. With the death of Peter I in January 1725, Nikonov lost his principal patron and the Admiralty withdrew support for the project.” [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_submarines]

Anyways the submarines we have on here don’t really need to be weapons, as much as they are meant more of underwater travel if you wish. When traveling under water, if you have no light in your sub you would be hidden from map. So that could be very useful if you are trying to explore under the water for a long period of time and don’t want to be attacked. But they can indeed be powerful tools when equipped with pirate cannons and mortars, then used for a surprise attack. Maybe we could add some sort of underwater cannon to it like what Max said, that would be interesting.

But back to cranes. That was an interesting idea and I personally would like that too. To make it so that there is a base to the crane that the moving part cannot leave, but given a gap in the center the top part connected to whatever ship or sub it is trying to pick up can move up and down. Now just for some sort of realism maybe this would have to be built to be a large crane to pilot it, but it can be released and re-piloted to carry an extra 5000 blocks (the size of a large indiaman). Then that would be able to be lifted and rotated using the crane. Then lowered back down whatever way you rotate it.

Overall, very cool thread. Thanks for the suggestions. The staff will be sure to look into these possibilities in the future once we finish up with some other staff projects currently in progress. 🙂

CosmicKing don’t worry, there is currently testing going on right now about flintlocks and muskets, not sure what’s happening right now as the subject has kinda stopped being talked about recently (like last 5 months atleast) but yeah definitely do more research, I’m still waiting for my carcass cannon shot to be added, I also recommend you going through the forums CosmicKing to see if there have been ideas already declared and whether they were turned down or not etc. Anyway glad to see your enthusiasm to make the server more authentic.

GodsDead wrote:

Do cannons not fire underwater or something?

No, neither cannons nor mortars can fire underwater.