Yes, what irs said.

It would be quite impossible to cover every possible situation and adhere a rule to it. Which is why the rules are broad and instead say “use common sense”. We as staff approach each situation based on the players involved. Their history, attitude, the situation itself etc..etc..

Unfortunately “common sense” is not all that “common” in the world these days. Its not being taught to younger generations or modeled by older generations so it seems on the verge of extinction. But thats a different soapbox for another time. 🙂

Think of the “use common sense”  rule as kinda the same as “would I be upset if someone did this to me” the good ole golden rule “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you” attitude.

That in and of itself should keep most all situations from becoming an issue.

As for,

“during a siege if someone comes into your house and kills you unforgivingly and then you do the same back to them, why is that not allowed? if they enter your house shouldnt you be able to do whatever you want to them? (Like not let them leave) by PVPING someone in your own house?”

The way a siege is  done is If you lose a siege the winning player/players have a set amount of time to loot as the reward for winning the siege. This means the losing player/players need to stand aside and let the winners claim their reward. If you engage after losing a siege you are technically in the wrong.

Is it against some rule? Not really but it leads to bitching and moaning about spawn killing, not being able to tp out, yada yada yada. then at some point it gets out of hand and folks get in trouble. But as I said above each situation is judged on its own not some hard and fast rule/nonrule.

The mistake that 90% of players make is having their set home out in the open. Usually at the front door or main room. So upon respawn you are vulnerable and usually upset about seeing all your hard earned loot being taken away. So instinct kicks in and you want to do what you can to keep your stuff. Also if you respawn in sight of the attackers you will be killed so you cant interfere.

You really should set your home in a special safe room of some sort. No buttons or levers on the outside to get in, only to get out. And of course keep your chests covered. soul sand is great for this as no tool is needed and its quick to remove it by hand. Yes there is the chorus fruit thing thats enabled after winning a siege so build with that in mind.

“breaking “decorations” during a siege is considered greifing, but it says nothing about greifing at all in the rules?”

Greifing is frowned upon at any time siege or not, but during a siege there are only a few blocks that can be broken in a claim and those are fair game when trying to enter a base.

On the other hand just breaking things for the sake of breaking them isnt cool whether its claimed or unclaimed, during a siege or not during a siege. This goes back to “would you want someone to be doing this to you” would you want something you worked very hard on and for a long time to be destroied by some jackhole just being destructive.

Of course if you are not a builder you might say “nope i dont care if someone did this to me” Then your just being an ass and with no sense of empathy. Which like common sense empathy isnt being taught by parents or schools or modeled by the older generations and that is also a rant for another time 🙂

Just bear in mind being an ass will be taken in to consideration when the situation comes before staff.

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Main points:

Dont be an ass, if someone is an ass to you dont be one back just let staff deal with them or you will be included in the disipline.

If it would upset you for someone to do it to you, dont do it to someone else.

Build and plan your base as if  everyone is an jackhole.

Be smart.

🙂

I agree it sucks to lose a siege and see all your hard earned supplies disappear. It was like clock work when i was working through the ranks that a soon as i got a handful of daimonds and decent amount of supplies some op folks would show up and destroy meand take my stuff. I never had the good sense to stay inside and would always go out and fight XD.

Of course the first few times I did like everyone does and re-spawned naked ran around trying to fight the looters at least for a couple mins anyway. Eventually i just set home in my new obby vault and it didnt matter anyway haha.

Thats the thing though, your supposed to stop them from winning the siege to keep them from taking your stuff.

Plus it just causes problems since when you re-spawn your naked so you cant do anything anyway. Even if you could get to some gear if you werent able to defeat them when you had the entirety of your defenses your not going to keep them from taking their prize :).

So you can only annoy someone and at best its an attempt to trigger a spam killing jail trip or keeps them tagged and they cant tp out. That causes all sorts of whining and chat wars and pinging staff for an issue that shouldnt be an issue.

In real life, well in the days of actual sieges you didnt respawn to annoy the victors of the war.

Not to mention the attitude changes when your the winner of a siege and its your time to take home the loot 😀 then its all “so and so wont leave us alone blah,blah,blah”

So thats why the loser needs to go to a safe room and the winner needs to just loot and leave the loser alone.

It would be awesome if the dev could implement something that triggered the loser to be tped to spawn or something. It would make more realistic.

Blu Pearson wrote:

Main points: Dont be an ass, if someone is an ass to you dont be one back just let staff deal with them or you will be included in the disipline. If it would upset you for someone to do it to you, dont do it to someone else. Build and plan your base as if everyone is an jackhole. Be smart.

That ^

Being an ass isn’t healthy for you or the server – you’ll just get yourself warned. If you ever have any questions, just send any staff a message in-game. Thanks for checking though.

I’d like to make a suggestion while this is still up, make it so that after you win the siege, as in the 5 minutes of win time, the person who was sieged and lost can NOT block their chests. It’s completly worthless to see someone open a chest in their vault, siege, and get nothing because they log out, log back in, spawn inside they’re vault, grab a siegeproof block, and block it. Really annoying :/

You also should have learned from this Jetty that breaking decorations, dirt and a bunch of random things all over someones base during a siege is frowned upon, and as Blue said not permitted. So please do not continue going around breaking everything you can while running around like you did at Cysteen’s base just to harass the player and be an ass. Wanted to make sure you picked up on that too, not just the spawn punching to keep people from leaving. If your breaking blocks to try and get into someones base, that is a different story. Breaking most of her ducks, and her pathways, along with random blocks, wasn’t very cool. It gains you nothing and just makes a lot of wasted time for players. I live for instance in an underground box, with a purely decorative base on top. If someone were to siege me and destroy the candy kingdom decorations just for giggles, it would probably make me despise the person and start needless grudges. You should try to plan out a siege, examine their base, and look for weaknesses. That is my two cents. Mind you, I am a player that does not PvP unless I am being attacked or Cysteen is. Glad your back, but try to listen to other players advice in game. Ignoring it and waiting for staff confirmation can instead increase your chances of getting in trouble. I generally don’t do anything people say is against the rules, and then confirm with staff when possible. It avoids putting myself in a bad situation.