died in PVP, kicked "for flying"

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  • #37774
    reaverofdarknes1
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    I was attacked while performing building on my house. I immediately set out to defend myself and my house, and I was doing a fine job of chasing off both attackers at the same time, when suddenly I was booted “for flying”.

    I want to point out that I have gotten booted several times “for flying” on this server and it will happen often when I get stuck on a block, which happens all the time….only on this server.

    It’s annoying enough having to put up with this, but it’s simply not fun playing a game when I’m at the mercy of the whims of the server. There was nothing I could do to defend myself against the server booting me. Next thing I knew, they were inside my house looting all my chests. They took my enchanted iron armor, my good pick, and several valuables from my chests. It wouldn’t let me close my house back up during the attack so I had to place blocks after I died and revived and before they hit me again.

    #37779
    Redstone_Potato
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    Steps for dealing with this situation:

    <i>(Must be followed exactly, or it will not work)</i>

     

    One: Fortify your base and lock your chests with siege proof blocks.

     

    Two: State your reason for creating this forum topic to facilitate follow up discussion.

     

    Three: Fill out one or both of the attached forms.

     

    Four: Realize that this kind of thing happens to other people and on other servers too, and no one has yet made a forum post here to complain about it, other than you.

     

    Five: Return to your normal life.

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    #37782
    Astrobolt
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    Steps for dealing with this situation: <i>(Must be followed exactly, or it will not work)</i> One: Fortify your base and lock your chests with siege proof blocks. Two: State your reason for creating this forum topic to facilitate follow up discussion. Three: Fill out one or both of the attached forms. Four: Realize that this kind of thing happens to other people and on other servers too, and no one has yet made a forum post here to complain about it, other than you. Five: Return to your normal life.

    This isn’t being butthurt at all. He is not complaining just because someone killed him. This is an error with anti-cheat so why should @reaverofdarknes1 not report it?

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    #37783
    Kanube
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    I agree with Astro, but also agree with the need for locking chests – I know from experience 🙂

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    #37786
    Cysteen
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    both an issue, the locked chests is a must regardless of reason, and the kicked for flying event. happened to me once on ae0’s island; punched a friend, ran off jumped and got stuck in an air block, got kicked while pvp tagged. difference here is I got all my stuff back, but it still sucks to have it happen. so far haven’t found a way to prevent being kicked, but I certainly hope we can figure it out. aside from that: lock your chests. (little tip: use hay bales or soul sand; both non siegable but neither require a tool to break).

    If I had a nickel for every time I, Ooo hey, a butterfly!! *runs off chasing the butterfly*

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    #37790
    build1115
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    Let me clear things up. It was Recoil and I who went to his base, and yes, recoil was being shot at and reaver was winning, so i stepped in to stop reaver. He DID NOT GET KICKED, he died and instantly warped back to his house. Why? because i was hitting him with a sword and saw his nametag warp to his house. Yes, we looted, because he had the side of his house a hole, and yes, i dirt poled up and jumped through. End of story, this “It wasn’t fair” thing isn’t funny or cute… Deal with it.

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    #37791
    Astrobolt
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    @gterwilliger calm down. The staff will handle the issue of whether or not he was actually kicked for flying because as godsy said in a similar thread, there are logs of all the kicked for flying.

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    #37792
    build1115
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    Ive been kicked for flying before, and I’m 99.99% sure he didn’t log, but in the event that I am wrong, I apologize in advance for all the drama.

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    #37794
    Astrobolt
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    As I said before, the staff can deal with whether he actually got kicked or not. I am going to stop arguing about that now and hope you do the same.

    Leader of the Narwhal Syndicate
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    #37799
    Redstone_Potato
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    Astro, this error is extremely prevalent, every server that uses the same anticheat has a few false kicks a day. At the same time, it has a much bigger number of correct daily kicks, bans, and reports. No one else complains on the forum, and since the only way to fix it is to remove the anticheat, there is no good way to fix it. Sure, it’s annoying, but really, you should just get over it and start rebuilding. I haven’t had it happen on this server, but it’s happened on other servers. The anticheat catches way more people than it falsely kicks. This seems like a plea for compensation, or a bid to remove or limit the power of the anticheat, which has helped staff catch and ban many, many cheaters. Neither are good ideas, the first being disallowed by the rules, the second being just plain stupid. It seems butthurt because no clear reason is given for the post, the post regards a chance happening that rarely happens and doesn’t affect gameplay that much, and any reason I can think of for this post is nonsensical or disallowed.

    #37802
    reaverofdarknes1
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    Steps for dealing with this situation: <i>(Must be followed exactly, or it will not work)</i> One: Fortify your base and lock your chests with siege proof blocks. Two: State your reason for creating this forum topic to facilitate follow up discussion. Three: Fill out one or both of the attached forms. Four: Realize that this kind of thing happens to other people and on other servers too, and no one has yet made a forum post here to complain about it, other than you. Five: Return to your normal life.

    1.) I was in the process of fortifying it when they attacked. I had just recently checked the map and they weren’t there. There’s only so much I can do against that, and I’ve got to remove blocks to replace them. I’ve got to unlock chests to get into them, they can’t be locked 100% of the time.
    2.) Reason was clearly stated in the OP. If I’m missing relevant info, please ask.
    4.) I’m sure it happens on some servers, but I’ve played on quite a few and have yet to see it anywhere else so it’s anything but the norm. Furthermore it doesn’t seem to happen to everyone on this server, only some, and others most certainly have made forum posts here about this issue.

    He DID NOT GET KICKED, he died and instantly warped back to his house. Why? because i was hitting him with a sword and saw his nametag warp to his house.

    I can’t warp in combat. I went to my house because that’s where my home setting is, that’s where I go when I die. Of course the logs will clearly show I was kicked for flying, but furthermore I was above 4 hearts and rapidly regenerating when it happened, and even your best bow hits were dealing less than 2 hearts to me, so there’s no way I would have died that fast even had I just stood there doing nothing.

    The anticheat catches way more people than it falsely kicks.

    I’ve been falsely kicked around five times in the <10 days since I started playing here, and I’ve heard exactly one report of any confirmed cheater in that time. I’ve also seen lots of others get falsely kicked, and I’ve avoided being falsely kicked a few dozen times by reacting quickly and removing myself from the block I am stuck inside. It generally only works if I get stuck while I am running, not jumping, and only when I can backpedal while jumping without getting struck in order to free myself. It happens on such a regular basis I have figured out a routine for freeing myself.

    So I find that hard to believe.

    #37809
    GodsDead
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    You haven’t said what client version you are using, and your ping to the server. We cant help poor performance from your computer or intenret connection, also if you are using 1.10 this is a protocol hack to allow the client to connect, you havent said what you are using? you need to tell us what you are using.

    I would assume actions from 1.10 would flag up more in the anti cheat because the servers running 1.9.4, as its clearly stated in /motd every single time you log in.

    #37817
    Palmerageddon
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    Right, I told you to lock your chests Reaver, and though you wanted some to stay unlocked, I told you at least to lock a chest as it takes seconds to break and replace a block after taking out the resources needed.

    I see the problem being that the anti-cheat software has played a part in the problem, which wouldn’t have happened if the chests were locked.

     

    Either way, the more political side is that @build1115 is in a crew of which is allied to mine -.-  Not to mention, I now have to look at my view on __Recoil__ after he and an ally had attacked a very peaceful member of mine, who I have only known to defend his base.

    I will be taking this lighter than some other crews would, I will give those who cause my members trouble a caution, and will be taking this matter into the LoN @build1115 as it is a very serious matter which hasn’t been a problem for me or my members in a long time.

    I often tell my members that they will be often be safe, as I know my members do not strive to annoy and p**s off others on this server. Knowing that I have some sort of respect on the server (of which sort I dunno xD), but I hope will realize that I am a reasonable, clam person, who gives FAR too many chances to who who annoys me.

     

    Again, I know this has rather little to do with the problem which is at stake here, again @reaverofdarknes1 could I stress, Lock Your Chests!, I know it does not look nice, but it really saves your bacon whenever shit hits the fan.

     

    -Palmer

    #37829
    Goldieh
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    @GodsDead If the server is currently using NoCheat, isn’t there a config option called “hover ticks” which is basically a limit of ticks for which a player can “fly” for before the plug-in assumes that the player is flying and kicks them from the server? Couldn’t this number just be increased a bit to account for server lag, client lag, and poor PC performance? Or maybe tweak combat log a bit so that it allows a 10-20 second log in period before it kills you and drops your items?

    #37845
    Trafalgar_Law
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    @godsdead If the server is currently using NoCheat, isn’t there a config option called “hover ticks” which is basically a limit of ticks for which a player can “fly” for before the plug-in assumes that the player is flying and kicks them from the server? Couldn’t this number just be increased a bit to account for server lag, client lag, and poor PC performance? Or maybe tweak combat log a bit so that it allows a 10-20 second log in period before it kills you and drops your items?


    @godsdead
    you could do this, or you could make it so that a disconnect as a result of a kick doesn’t kill you when you are combat tagged

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