Teleport options make ships not very useful

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    Charlie
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    I’m pretty new to the server but one thing I’ve noticed is that a lot of players build ships and then hardly ever touch them again. Sailing massive ships isn’t particularly useful for anything except maybe for siege or fighting other ships (but hardly anyone sails so there aren’t other ships to fight). I think one change that would encourage more open world ship sailing would be to actually remove teleport options. Or at least remove all teleport options except for /home maybe. This would encourage people going long distance to hop in a ship and turn the cruise on. Also if you need to transport items between bases or to your vendor, the best way without teleport would be to load up a ship with chests and sail it into town. This would provide incentive to sail more often and encourage piracy through the raiding of trade ships.

    I know teleports are one of the most useful functions, but I figure I’d just throw this out there as food for thought. Currently it feels like ships are simply a novelty and not useful when you can just teleport across the map.

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    Not iwanio
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    I have been on the server for a year now, and honestly, I agree. Teleporting is super useful, but I think removing it would be more beneficial in the long term.

     

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    #69542
    Combatfry
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    I mean yes it would be better but then i think there would have to be a lot of change  like how would u go to shops, how would u go to spawn etc.  it may also cause a struggle for new players. just my thoughts ;p.

    But yes I agree removing teleports would make ships more used and really add to the “pirate” theme.

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    PIPPIP5789
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    Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but this has been asked for and rejected by the owner multiple times. Staff is currently, as he has said before, working on a world without teleportation to allow better use of the ships (and no, I do not know when it will be done), but the server will not be removing teleportation from the server we have. Let’s say we did; we’d also have to remove the /warp, /homes, /tpa and /tpahere, /back, and more. Basically, we’d have to remove all of those because any of them could and would be used in place of teleportation (obviously /tpa and /tpahere is the teleportation we have rn); it would completely change (and break) most of the server. I for one have always advocated more ship usage, to the point of using ships to trade between other players and crews rather than teleportation (when applicable; obviously, someone on the far side of the server that wants to trade a stack of food for a stack of wood or something I would just teleport to).
    This does not mean, however, that I believe completely removing all forms of teleportation would be good for the server (as would be required for ships to have use in the way that you are asking). Something that has been said before by the owner I will repeat: “Just because you can teleport to the shops doesn’t mean you have to…” (it goes on for a while). The same principle is true when applied to ships (in part because that was a large part of the question he was answering, ships going to player-made markets) – Just because you can teleport doesn’t mean you have to.
    Finally, I would like to wrap up my argument by going over what would change if you were to remove teleportation (and by necessity explain why we are not going to be removing it from PMC). Firstly, homes, including many spawners, towns, cities, and other constructs players have made over the course of 8 years would be lost. I speak on a personal level when I say that I would lose multiple towns if homes were removed. Warps? If you remove warps, you remove access to the market and shops that so many players use. This would probably destroy our eco, forcing players and crews to produce what they need by themselves or be forced to go thousands of blocks by ship to trade for what they need. This, of course, assumes that they are on the water. If not (and many players won’t be, as the waterside areas have filled up over the course of the server), they will be forced to trek over land before going to the water, possible having to get permission from another player/crew in order to use their docks. In other words, uselessness to our eco, crashing it into oblivion. This, I would hope, is obviously not good. /back is a donator perk that would cease to exist, something that has been frowned upon by the owner many times over. Newer players would not be able to play together without walking immense amounts of blocks (how many times have you heard deckhands asking to be teleported to one another because they want to play together?), and probably losing them in the process.
    All of this, and more, are the reasons we should not and will not be removing teleportation to force ships to have a use. Ships do, however, already have a few uses.
    Firstly, friendly ship battles take place on occasion; you could either see if you could join one, or, if you’re interested, even host one yourself. Just ask around and see who would want to participate!
    I know that ship races have happened before, and I’m sure that given enough time, another one could be organized. You would just have to ask.
    Finally, as I said earlier, we have traded with ships before, and occasionally trading fleets will go out from various ports. Ask around, maybe join up with one that you might enjoy? It isn’t that we have a lack of use of ships (though, as I previously stated, I do wish they were used more than they are now regardless). It is simply a matter of finding what we DO have already, and doing it.
    Teleportation could be removed, but it wouldn’t be worth it, not with the heavy cost it entails. Rather, I would steer you towards trying to find a ship activity already being done and participating with that. If I can answer any other questions, don’t hesitate to let me know. Thank you!

    Peace for all! Why do we descend into the chaos of our lives when we could live in harmony, without bloodshed, violence, or death? I will protect and defend my crew, my family, and let them enjoy as much peace as my life can offer.

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    #69564
    Not iwanio
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    fair enough

     

    something has gotta be done about ships tho, they are legitimately useless.

     

    like really, I haven’t used one for anything other than moving bases in almost a year

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