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February 18, 2018 at 1:02 am #56455
Acknowledged and added to the list… that I just came up with.
Mostly when you drop wars, it is over land or because someone pissed you too far over the cliff… Me, it is sort of the latter. I’ve watched my favorite server, Hell my only server, go from 100% active to 100% “Where the **** is all the action? Besides Jusa ganking every soul outside?” So yeah, I guess I’m pissed about this and am starting a staged war to get things fired up like they were in the old times… Just not with some arse and his crew of dingbats getting the whole server riled up. I personally just want to see people go “Oh look! Is that the mystical thing called the sun?”
@JUSA
Which one?
@Minister Moo
Talk to Cys about it… As far as my knowledge goes, she doesn’t want any part in it.
P.S. –
I have come up with a way to avoid people complaining about losing stuff and getting bases attacked: We (or me, that’s fine…) can set up custom bases and establish battlegrounds. That way it is possible for people to lose defense and surprise attacks can actually work. Yes, this idea is beyond flimsy, but please give me any feedback and if you have any ideas or recommendations, I’ll be more than glad to hear/consider them.
I... I've got nothing... Carry on.
February 18, 2018 at 1:42 am #56460How about only iron armor with one level of whatever they want to add, and only iron swords with Sharpness I? It would make people not have to worry about losing really good stuff and they’ll maybe do some crazy things, like a bedwars rush or something. Then how about some outposts, then a main base? Then maybe some elytras to the leaders? And some bows. Always need bows and arrows. Also, should we have shields?
Boatswain
Leader of TLC (The Loners Crew)
I have not failed, I just found 10,000 ways that won't work.
----Thomas A Edison----February 18, 2018 at 1:48 am #56462I do have that in mind, yes. I was also thinking about having multiple settlements dragged throughout the map, given how large this becomes. I am also thinking about asking for a separate world for this to happen on, although I am certain that maintaining another map for just this may be such a burden, plus that won’t get things pumping in the survival world, either… I will be keeping my eye out for places to construct bases and outposts and what not; hopefully in a clear area where they can be relatively close to each other.
I... I've got nothing... Carry on.
February 18, 2018 at 1:57 am #56463black shadow u r a bow spammer and an incompetent fool who likes op duels because you last longer than in a normal duel
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turns on hitboxes when pvpingFebruary 18, 2018 at 1:59 am #564644orange, please save aggressive insults for the server chat… I really do not want a plague in my post because you can not hold your tongue… or fingers…
Honestly, we are having a conversation… For you to barge in and start throwing this garbage around is really disrespectful. Not just to him, but to me as well. Please, if you want a part in this discussion, then let’s discuss the topic at hand, not what “he did” and “she did” and all that nonsense…
Thank you.
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February 18, 2018 at 2:19 am #56466Silverstone47, you can use my base. It is near spawn, I’m moving out of it, and it is pretty defensible if I know if someone is coming. It also has cannons on the top. If you want to borrow it, you are welcome to use it. If you need anything else, just ask.
Boatswain
Leader of TLC (The Loners Crew)
I have not failed, I just found 10,000 ways that won't work.
----Thomas A Edison----February 18, 2018 at 2:26 am #56467As long as it is above ground. I prefer bases that are accessible so that both sides have an advantage. They should also be able to defend multiple people, meaning that if it is too small, some alterations may be required. Do take note that I am still coming up with this as we go along… Yeah bad planning inbound…
Before we do anything, though, I still need more heads in the battle. Don’t want to set up something that will never be used… Once we are certain that people want to do this, then we can begin further preparations.
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February 18, 2018 at 2:55 am #56469I like your persistence Silver. If we can do battle in a piraty way without useless name-calling that could be a lot of fun.
Using all out iron gear to have a level playing field seems like a great idea.
We could use everyone’s old bases to be taken/sieged 😉
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February 18, 2018 at 2:52 pm #56474The problem is majority of the server play here either for the community, to build, and use the movecraft plugin. We would all love to pvp, majority of the time we do not have the gear (pc, connection and ingame) or skill, I would for one love to pvp, however my skill isn’t that good, and gear-wise, my Java is broken right now so I can’t.
People have thought of ‘staged battles’ but they are in actual fact just pvp arenas, which no one finds fun, and no one is going to hand over their hard work of a town/settlement/base over a pvp match, and the old ‘staged battles’ which do exist are those of the ship battles which are rather successful (I don’t know, look at what Max has done and try replicate it, I’m not trying to put you down, just listing the facts which lead to PvP requesting these type of events).
You talk about how war works, and yes it does provide great rewards such as reinvigorating an economy, increasing productivity etc. On this server it doesn’t always work like that, yes it does encourage people to be a bit more productive as in producing food, weapons, armour, boats etc, all that does at the end of the day though is either get destroyed, stolen, sold or never used, there is no real multiplier effect, and as soon as something like a base looses its value (for example, the forts on Xenia and Old Verussia) they’re just another group of blocks with no real economic use other than using its materials, a farm, a storage facility etc.
I would encourage instead, those crews who produce over powered weaponry etc, to less powerful weaponry, I’ve said this before, if the defender knows they have a fighting chance, they will most likely feel more inclined to fight, same as attacking you whilst at your work, instead leave your over powered weapons for those decisive battles, people would be far more happier losing stuff they can regenerate in a day (by that I mean >6 hours) like iron.
However, I know this probably wont work also, or whatever, you’ll just have to try and at least think about what why that person is not attacking you / fighting back and change your ways. I don’t know, anyway there are your reasons why people don’t tend to pvp and why people take to forums to try and fix it.
February 18, 2018 at 3:43 pm #56479@silverstone47, yes it is above water.
@bazurka, yes I love Silverstone47’s persistence 110%. Keep it up, Silver! ☺
@palmerageddon, yes, wars don’t really help this server’s economy, but there has been a decline in pvping, an increase in Vault Dwelling, and an increase in just straight up suprise attacks by over-powered players on guys in leather. (Like me). A server wide war would probably appeal to a lot of pvpers, because they can kill more noobs, and it would also appeal to deckhands and up, because they can get back at a lot people they have been raided by.Boatswain
Leader of TLC (The Loners Crew)
I have not failed, I just found 10,000 ways that won't work.
----Thomas A Edison----February 18, 2018 at 4:15 pm #56480Yes, as stated , there are MANY flaws to this design. People can not be trusted to play by the rules… But I still think that this could be a way to actually make this “community” a community… bringing people together to fight others should (emphasis on “should”) build cooperative relationships between people and make this more than a server of lonely, underground farmers. That is my overall goal with this.
As for the economy, my idea of ramping up the Eco with a war is only a result in theory. Honestly, I see no hope in that department, and at this rate I could care less… I do agree that this war has a hyh chance of doing nothing for it. The revival of the economy was only a theorized result of this… nothing more.
As for people in general… I am not asking for everyone to participate. As a matter of fact, I am not forcing anyone onto this. Those who will be fighting will simply be volunteers who think this could work, want to have a good time and potentially get a chance to use the server’s perks. PvPers will benefit greatly from this, true… but if they play by the War’s standards, it could fall back on them and give the little guys a chance in seeing success. Hell, business could remain as usual for them. They could not participate in the battle, but still attack both sides. All in all, I just want to see a new event occur on the server that involves more than just a handful of people… Something to talk about long after it ends
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February 18, 2018 at 8:13 pm #56484there are MANY flaws to this design
correct
People can not be trusted to play by the rules
correct
“community” a community
It is already a community, it is just people interact with it at different levels, more than others and in different ways.
should (emphasis on “should”) build cooperative relationships between people and make this more than a server of lonely, underground farmers
A cooperative relationship on this server is @JUSA kills you when you have a lot of loot and takes it, and does not kill you again and until you have all your loot back.
-A better relationship would be that the PVPpers stop telling people to go ‘train on other servers’, and rather instead help people to get better. I for one wouldn’t care if it was a no strings attached or promises approach, and that just due to training, would not mean they could not raid me anymore, all it would do is make me more confident in my skills and perhaps stick about, take part in raids or even give a couple of kicks before I click the respawn button again.
wars don’t really help this server’s economy, but there has been a decline in pvping, an increase in Vault Dwelling
true, true and true.
suprise attacks
The only way pvp can occur usually.
This is just going to be my last response. Setting up a ‘server wide war’ is useless unless that war can be set up by a group of influential people to target a valid group (of which I provide none as I enjoy being on practically everyone’s good side). I can give you examples again and again of why people do not pvp, instead of setting up ‘pvp’ events, which no one often attends like the seasonal ones e.g. Halloween and Christmas when PVP is turned on, fails because people do not want to lose their gear, its a guaranteed fact. The only way you can fix this, is by fixing people’s confidence in their own abilities and for them not to feel their loss is permanent (which it is not) and for it to no longer be fun and to turn into a drag.
Luckily for now, there is a lot less butthurt, salty, toxic players being reported (from what I can see) so this must be improving, though those who are not that, are going underground for the subterranean life, of no sunlight, breeze or rain. Ta la.
February 18, 2018 at 8:52 pm #56488Those are some very good points, Palmer. I do not see this “war” as a permanent solution to our problems. I just want to see people work together for a common cause, on both sides of the battle. Quite frankly, I miss the times back then when stuff like that happened. I did have an idea to form a “Resistance” against the main pirate crews, yet even that idea has some serious drawbacks: 1. I happen to be friends with those crews. 2. Those crews will not go down no matter how many people join against them. And 3. If and when these crews go down, there will just be another organization to take their place as the hated. This idea of a “Free War” is just my interpretation of making a battle that allows both sides to fight each other, without causing significant conflict. I also proposed that we all use common gear to make fights fair (And realistic… When have you seen/heard of a warrior running around in solid diamond armor?). I know that people suck and they will rather lose an arm before playing fair, but I do have the slightest shine of hope that people can respect each other while playing a game. As said: This is probably the most flawed idea I’ve ever had, yet I am trying to find ways around it. And at the end of the day, this could or could not even happen. Still need volunteers to see if people are interested. Only then will I bother to give myself a headache over filling in the lines.
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February 18, 2018 at 9:38 pm #56489@minister_moo, you, and any other TAS member is free to participate if you please (as long as you don’t act like a @#$%^&*). I personally don’t have an interest, as Silverstone has said. I am willing to offer him some assistance if he needs it, be it gear, or building supplies, or whatever.
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