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  • #54869
    Monks
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    You guys are nothing but near spammers and loggers

    cltn ”pvpers” spam /near more then the builders in BE do

    I can prove this. I see everything.

    ~ xMadMonkey ~

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    #54871
    Nado
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    Why do we have to be pointing out each other’s flaws? BE has some and so does CLTN but saying we are just doing this to start a war, idk I’m not into politics I just want a war and why do we need to have a reason to start a war can’t we just have a war because war is fun?

    PICKLEJAR

    #54872
    Monks
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    Guys Nado has a point. Wanna wait for ac to get fixed or naw?

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    #54873
    Nado
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    Yeah, not having to worry about rubberbanding/getting kicked would be nice. And it might get fixed soon because nahadoth made some really good bug reports.

     

    Also monks go sleep

     

     

    PICKLEJAR

    #54874
    Astrobolt
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    #pomegranate

    Leader of the Narwhal Syndicate
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    King of the Elves, 2016-2017 (Rumoured)

    Crew History:
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    #54876
    Bazurka
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    I wasn’t even gonna write anything but I guess before this thread gets closed , I’ll chime in.

    tl;dr  :  CLTN is warmongering their way into piratemc history / BE doesn’t even know what hit it and is too slow to even react / carry on, nothing to see here

    I was surprised about this nonsense about “BE bullying and oppressing” smaller crews into colonies by Ketoh, but then network saying he wrote it, it made more sense. Ketoh knows the BE and should know that stuff like that would never happen.  The BE is rather reaching out to smaller crews and helping them getting a footing in this crazy pirate world we call piratemc.com  . The BE is always helping other new crews and new players and has not given up her peaceful ways.

    The entire thing with Moo and Taulov is entirely an adventure of the both of them. Only those two know what went on. I heard about all of that through other people and still don’t know what happened. I know either one and am not picking any sides, because I plainly don’t have enough information to form an opinion. Those two should have a chance to solve their problems by themselves and their crews should not be held responsible if you ask me. Anyone rushing to a judgement, please take time to hear either side.

    I think this entire thread is about the CLTN trying to enforce a war they are not easily getting. It is warmongering plain and simple!

    For some reason the CLTN has a very unhealthy anti-BE stance. Some people even shout out in chat “death to BE” – even though it wasn’t even a BE member they just killed. Yes, we can see the “death to the Brits” everywhere. Come up with something more clever.

    BE is the one-and-only  (correct me if I am wrong) crew in piratecraft that is a true Democracy. We are open to everyone. Anyone in the crew can make their mark and participate in the process of making the crew better and even change it. No one person can misuse it’s power to get the crew off track – even when the_network is  telling you differently. (Obviously, network – your sleeper-agent didn’t get you the right info. Maybe ask Hyrda on how to do it properly., they seem to be pretty successful doing that.) Unfortunately – I have to say – the BE government is not acting very quickly as one might be expecting it from maybe other crews; members have to be informed and replies to be awaited with maybe rebuttals and then votes, etc etc …   Large governing bodies dawdle and meander, that’s the nature of the beast.  😉

    Still members of the BE are all over the map trying to build and improve things for the server.
    Members of the CLTN I can see …. I mean I can’t see, running around in invis&god killing people left and right. That is only my personal opinion. Go ahead and show me that I am wrong!

    I have been killed by your members without hesitation, reason or warning. I know you will kill me on sight – even when we are not at war. Threatening me with a war is not doing anything. That’s an empty threat.
    And yes of course, I will try to divert the fight, will try to be unreachable by you – anything else would be foolish. I am not a great pvp-er and frankly I don’t give a crap about kdr. That’s not why I am here. Not my thing.

    If anyone is even interested in the rich history and the laws of the British Empire read our Wiki page – don’t believe all the propaganda you are hearing from the current trendy pvp-crew.

     

    Don’t forget, this is not a official BE response just utter hogwash that I had to get out of my system.

    Thanks everyone,
    Baz

    Proud Member of the Piratecraft history 🙂

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    #54883
    Oktacraft
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    Ketoh, you sound triggered 😛

    #54884
    GO_BLUE
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    The United States Empire is neutral.

    GO_BLUE
    Commonly known as “Celtic”
    Joined in May 2015

    #54885
    JUSA
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    May the British Empire burn <3

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    Death to da Brits
    Death to da Elves
    Death to da Fruits

    Heck..Death to Everyone 😀

    #54892
    Monks
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    Did you guys make BE banners just so you could make a photo will nobody was on?

    ;o

     

    ~ xMadMonkey ~

    «Godfather of La Famiglia»

    ~ Mememaster since 1969 ~

    #54897
    SnapCrackPlays
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    @benthebruce I think you misunderstand me. I greatly admire the BE, but after what happened to Moo, who was incredibly friendly towards BE and did not show any sign of aggression, I could not stay in a crew whose leadership, after blowing up a former member’s base, decided to try to cover it up, deny it, and refuse to condemn it. At least Hydra actually tell you that they’ve raided you. I believe that I left the BE for a direct denial of the values the BE began with from the top level of government. I have not ‘fallen for CLTN’. I remained as a government member during the months of pressure from DD, Horsia, and TAS, because I believed what we were doing was right. I was killed countless times for nothing less than being in BE, and I chose to remain. After what happened to Moo, the government proved me wrong. I did not leave BE because of the crew itself. I left it because of what was happening to a great crew due to the government.

    -Proprietor of Fort Abercrombie

    -Patient #412 of the Asylum

    "I cannot, if I am in the field of glory, be kept out of sight: wherever there is anything to be done, there Providence is sure to direct my steps."
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    #54903
    benthebruce
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    @snapplays thank you for your response.  I appreciate that we are addressing our differences without resorting to useless name calling.  While I would have preferred to address the matter that is underlying your ultimate decision to leave BE internally, there are a number of reasons this did not happen.  The issue between Moo and Taulov, both of whom i consider good friends, is beyond my ability to understand.  I have asked both of them why the thing happened and neither of them really had a good answer.  Taulov got upset that Moo joined a rival crew and that may have been a large part of the issue.  Whatever the cause, Taulov did what he did and acted on his own.  His actions were not those of the BE or the BE government.  When Moo asked me, who also had trust at that base at the time, I assured him that neither I nor Taulov had anything to do with it.  I said that because I was not involved and because TNTing a base is inconsistent with BE standards and the player I had come to know Taulov to be.  However, Taulov did accept responsibility to Moo when asked directly and immediately started to try to resolve the problem between these 2 players personally.  So long as Moo and Taulov worked out their differences there was no real need to escalate the matter to their respective crews.  From the brief understanding I had of what happened I do not believe any BE laws were broken since Moo was a member of a rival crew.  I believe that at the point Taulov tried to make in his post indicating that the matter was “closed” was to tell us that he and Moo had worked things out.  As Minister of Defense and Justice I think you could have conducted your own investigation to determine the facts and suggest to the membership appropriate remedies.  In any case, I am not aware that Moo or anyone from CLTN made a report to the BE leadership or Taulov’s actions.  I know the TNT side of things was escalated to Gods, who was thankfully able to restore Moo’s base.  I have been able to piece all this together because I have had open conversations with both Moo and Taulov.

    Let me be clear to everyone: BE does not utilize or condone blackmail, bullying, harassment, or grief.  That is a crew position.  Now each crew is a collection of individual players and from time to time we may have players or circumstances that are not in keeping with those standards.  We prefer that offending players work things out on their own but will get involved if necessary.  That is where we are now: Taulov tried to work things out with Moo on his own.  Moo is apparently still dissatisfied.  I am working with Moo and @riverwood202 to resolve the issue.

    As Ketoh said, many of the CLTN members are former BE and know that what I have said about BE principles to be true.  I believe that you have conflated the actions of one player with those of the crew.  Your post said “I could not stay in a crew whose leadership, after blowing up a former member’s base, decided to cover it up…”  That action was not taken by our leadership which you as a member of that leadership know.

    Now on to what I believe could be your true frustration: the timeing of everything.  In the initial aftermath of the raid no one knew what happened.  Moo changed his handle and tried /msg me on the server over the course of a couple of days asking if I blew up his base.  I had no idea who this Kauhy was and I had certainly not blown up any bases.  So I made short brush off denials to Moo not knowing it was him.  Once I figured out who this guy was I was immediatly concerned and tried to help Moo figure out what happened.  It was during this time that Taulov accepted responsibility to Moo and began trying to work things out.  As I said earlier, we as a crew prefer to have players work out disputes between themselves.  I think this is more likely to result in something both can live with rather than a leadership mandated solution.  And to let that happen we need to give it some time.  There was a delay between the raid and identification of the responsible party and another delay as the parties tried to resolve things.  It sucks that it takes time to work these things out but I don’t see any other way short of launching an internal investagation from the start.

    Snap, you were a great crewmate and a very supportive leader.  I take issue whith your post because you said “the BE raided and blew up a former member” again conflating the actions of a single member with that of the entire crew.  You then proceed to tell us that you are going to be disloyal and then share widely your perception of the way the crew works and internal forum communications.  You close with the hashtag campaign that CLTN has been using to drum up war with BE litteraly promoting violence against the crew you claim to be so loyal to.

    I hope this post has shed some light for those that care on the backstory to this unfortunate personal rivalry between Taulov and Moo.  I applaud CLTN for masterfully exploiting this incident to sew server wide drama.  Chaos is good for pirates right?

    benthebruce
    Prime Minster
    British Empire

    #54906
    Palmerageddon
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    *shrug*

    #54907
    SnapCrackPlays
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    @Benthebruce thank you for your response, however you do seem to have misread some of my post. I never mentioned anything about saying what had happened inside BE government forums. I have screenshots of most of the government’s most important deleted posts on my pc that I filed and could have released them, I did not (Please note that I am not blackmailing BE in any way, I am simply making a point). I simply decided to share a very small and non confidential piece of information in order to prove my point about the government not acting in the way I would have hoped. I do also understand that not all of the government were responsible for what happened, however once the post I made was closed no government member decided to share their thoughts, and in general I got the sense that the government were trying to cover up what had happened. I also completely understand Taulov is one person within BE. However we ourselves recently discussed going to war over Net and Jusa taking Jammin’s ships and claiming them, a crime I would rate as much more petty than what happened to Moo. My point is that Taulov was not a random cadet who had been in BE for a week, he was the second most powerful in the BE. Furthermore I did not say I was going to be disloyal, I simply stated the fact that many government members would very likely call me disloyal, traitorous, etc. I have no plan to be disloyal towards BE. Like I said in my recent post, I stayed in BE even when most of the server had turned against us. Until a week ago I had trust on a British vault containing close to a stack of gapples, more than ten godsets, and other loot. I did not raid the vault in question and would never do so (Again please don’t interpret this as blackmail in any form). Personally I wouldn’t say I was being disloyal in this way. I closed my post with #BlameTaulov because Taulov is a good friend of mine from within BE and I was shocked to see what had happened to Moo’s base. I had similar thoughts about you when your name came up as a possible culprit during the teamspeak conversation I was in when I heard about the incident. I’m not going lie to someone about what they have done. I would do the same to anyone else, including from CLTN. I also hope to remain good friends with some of the best people I met within BE, such as you, Smokin, Baz, and others.


    @thenetwork
    you are correct, I did take part in establishing the first BE colony. I would also like to add that, after siegeproofing the player’s houses, and establishing a farm, I left the crew and the colony when the crew announced they did not want to be under British control and I was not part of any sort of forceful offensive against said colony (I do not know if BE have attacked it since, I did hear talk of such actions). If I did cause any harm to the town, I apologise to TSE (The crew that was colonised).

    (Please forgive me if this post has grammatical errors, I have been writing a physics paper for the past three hours and my brain is not functioning)

    -Proprietor of Fort Abercrombie

    -Patient #412 of the Asylum

    "I cannot, if I am in the field of glory, be kept out of sight: wherever there is anything to be done, there Providence is sure to direct my steps."
    Horatio Nelson

    #54908
    The_Network
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    Notice: This post is as a player, not a moderator.

    Looks like the posts have slowed down again so I’ll give my final response now.

    Before addressing everyone like I did in the last post, I would just like to include a little bit of proof of a player who was being pressured to become a colony after an attack began.

    That is just one example of a player we’ve spoken to. So there’s some proof for all those asking for it in addition to Gildor’s talk about colonies that Palmer posted.

    Monks: Yeah BE is corrupt in POTC and other pirate cinema. But as for the cool part, they’ve lost that factor.

    Kirn (x3): (1) Well would you look at that you wrote more sentences this time. Yeah we’re all hoping Taulov will man up, stop lying to his crew members, and return everything he took from Kauhy. As for the colonies, offering players assistance for the price of 1 gold bar a week isn’t bad at all. But that’s not how this is working is it. People are being sieged and attacked immediately to be persuaded into having the label of colony and paying a larger price than that I’m sure. Do people really need to make your crew happy? Can’t they just be their own crew and pay you for help when they need it? Not sure what rambling on about irl has to do with all that but ok? Also as seen above in the screenshot from River, it doesn’t look like BE is just talking it out with people. Looks to us like you’re doing exactly what we were saying, attacking someone repeatedly and pressuring them into colonization.
    (2) Being corrupt is one thing, bullying small crews into your plan is another.
    (3) What humor? What context? All your posts said before were “k lol” and “Dont get me wrong but this kinda reminds me of some north korean propaganda crap”. Wow hilarious? The propaganda joke would have been funny if this wasn’t actually happening on the server.

    Palmer: I didn’t even think of that video, quality pick man. Also spoiler alert, you know who loses in Star Wars, the Empire. (BE will lose in the end)

    Nado and JUSA: Killing brits is a lifestyle. Sadly we can’t actually start a war with them because they refuse to accept our war requests.

    Volpex: Nighty night?

    Palmer again: Little confused on the actual order of these posts of Gildor’s, but thank you for including this evidence. As people can see they are doing the original plan of repeatedly marching the “BE troops” in to attack the crew. But they clearly don’t try simply negotiating a deal first to assist. Also they would force their “laws” on whatever crew they are offering assistance to. Lots of information in those posts, so thanks for posting it here.

    Maximus: Yeah I figured this would be a better outlet for discussing this than arguing in the global chat in game.

    CrazyPirate: As clearly shown in the posts by Gildor that Palmer included, taxes would happen either way along with your little law enforcement. The real funny thing about it is this sentence: “Should a colony refuse to pay taxes without beforehand negotiating the termination of their colony status then the Royal Navy with me tasked with quelling the rebellion.” That sentence is hilarious. So not only will they be forced into being a colony, but any attempt to go back to doing their own thing and not paying you would lead to being attacked repeatedly again. I have nothing more to say on that bit…
    Who cares how many of you have donator rank, the ones that do spam near is all I’m saying. We can’t get near Petal_Face(Gildor) without him instantly teleporting into his house the moment we get within 120 blocks of him. Also you don’t have to be a donator to log. As monks would say “Thats common sense, duh.”
    No we don’t have a vendetta against the inanimate object that is your city. We have a disliking for the crew that lives in it. Also Cysteen didn’t run Ae0’s island, take a look at the claim. All TAS did was protect it from those who came to kill shoppers. I’m sure if someone got mad at Ae0 (for some odd reason even though he is very nice) they would want to see his island burned too.
    BE isn’t a dictatorship within, it is attempting to be a dictatorship over the server. For one example Peppykiss’s crew. As shown above, Jusa has more examples if you’d like him to post them later.
    Yeah the main buildings of London are unoriginal and taken from other sources. Other players have found buildings used in London on images and videos online. What a shame you don’t pay attention to this kind of stuff.
    Of course everyone is annoyed with Tau. Moo is an active player that trusted him as a friend. He clearly abused that trust and is now on a lying spree refusing to return Moo’s god sets and event items. Yeah people loot old bases they have trust to because either they don’t care about that person they are raiding, that player has quit the server, or even just because they can. But the problem with Tau, was that he raided a friend and now has decided the items are more important than becoming a trustworthy player again. I’m sure none of you will ever trust him to your personal bases now that you know this could happen. This guy is running for Prime Minister of BE, that speaks wonders for your crew. As for wanting to fight a war… We have tried to declare war about 10 times by now. You’re all too cowardly to accept it.
    Who says me or The Coalition is going anywhere? This crew is constantly getting stronger, while BE looks to be on a downhill slope. No, what you don’t like is that we will have front row seats to the collapse of BE, maybe you’ll fix yourself some day. Good luck with that. Outsiders, you are the first person to ever call me or my crew an outsider. Within a year of playing on this server I went from being a deckhand in a crew that went inactive within a weak, to owning two elytras, dubs of godsets, and being close friends with some of the kindest strongest players on the server. Go ahead call me an outsider, cause I don’t feel like one. My issue with BE has been stated, it’s been stated multiple times. So where are the balls on you not accepting our war requests. I don’t need dirt to “use”, I can declare war whenever I want. This thread was to expose the atrocities within BE, honestly it’s worked exactly how I wanted. Taulov isn’t a scapegoat, he’s a side issue that furthers the proof that BE is corrupt. We’re not being forced into anything, accept our war requests Mr. “have the balls”.

    Monks again: Yeah Monks, there is a difference in spamming near to track a player and spamming near to know when to run from someone coming to fight. We track, BE runs. Go ahead and prove something.

    Nado: Yes we can war, but sadly they won’t let us. We already had our reasons, this thread is to let the server see the flaws of BE and to warn them of their colonization plan.

    Monks and Nado: Just waiting on the bug reports to get sorted out by the developers.

    Astro: #StarFruit

    Bazurka: For those who don’t know tl;dr means ‘Too long; didn’t read’. Honestly Baz, it’s not that much to read. Take the time to read if you are going to write a post. I hope this response won’t be too long for you to read…
    I don’t care about being worked into the records of PirateMC history. Most pirate crews don’t have giant history books about them, they simply just existed and did their own thing. Yeah BE is taking a hit and is showing it in their responses like this one. Ketoh read over the post before actually starting this thread. He fully agreed with it. All the people I’m friends with that used to be in BE have stated that it is not the same as it once was. That things have clearly changed within the crew. The fact is, you just refuse to accept that it’s getting worse. BE isnt always helping new crews and new players. You all sit and build by yourself. The only person that helps new players is Lazydog. As of late, rest of you do nothing but talk about expanding London and overpowering small crews. I’d encourage Taulov to actually state his side of the story. Why he did what he did? Why he is lying about not having dubs of god sets? From what Moo said, he did it cause he was “Mad that Moo joined Jmoo’s crew and later my crew”, so I’d love to hear him expand on that. He returned a small fraction of stuff and claimed the rest blew up. No one loot a few chests then blows the rest of the loot up. That’s absurd.
    Your next comment here is fun.
    Warmongering: encouragement or advocacy of aggression toward other countries or groups.
    I’m sorry have I not made myself clear. This thread was to expose BE for it’s atrocities and warn people not to give in to your petty colonization scheme. Yeah I am totally asking everyone to go to war with you. This show’s you clearly didn’t read like your said. I am encouraging everyone to not submit to BE’s crap and to see what BE has become within it’s leadership.
    Yeah we have a anti-BE stance. Everyone has a stance against their main rival. Who cares what we chant in chat. It warns people what’s coming for them as part of BE. We don’t need anything clever. It’s war, accept it.
    This next paragraph seemed to just be an prideful encouragement to your crew to make you sound more respectable, so, um, ok I guess? Not sure what sleeper agent you are talking about. I just have people who just share about things within BE. You have fun with your rebuttals and votes, my crew just simply talks to each other about our opinions then decides an action to take. Not sure if you know this but pirates worked on a voting system too so you’re not all that special. Votes on crews happened very fast and you could go from working in the kitchen to being the quartermaster after just a quick vote.  Enjoy your dawdling and meandering.
    Not sure what you’re trying to build and improve, you mainly build in London (for your crew) in lazy’s town (for your crew) and build personal bases (for your crew). Don’t even bring up the canal as a “for the server” example. That’s no longer being discussed. As for us, yeah we mostly build for ourselves. We own bases, we raid players, and we commit piracy. Welcome to PirateCraft. But a large number of us are on build team, we don’t brag about it though. We just build what is needed and asked of us.
    Yeah we try to kill you all the time recently, we’re rivals. The war isn’t a threat, it’s already happening. One little fight after another, we will cut you down. Go ahead and run, there are other ways to defend yourself than PVP. Just don’t call us bad when you all run away.
    Lol nice plug here at the end for your wiki page. None of that matters in this situation, BE isn’t what it used to be.

    Oktacraft: You’re response is as meaningless as Kirns first post, you guys should totally take a writing class together.

    Sean: Ok? Thanks for letting us know I guess.

    JUSA: They will.

    Monks: Everyone already has BE banners? Also plenty of BE members were on when this was taken. None came to London though with us being there obviously.

    Snap: Well worded. Snap is one of the people I respected in BE, and the fact that he has had to leave the crew should tell you all how the BE “government” is quickly going downhill.

    Benthebruce: So the main part of your post is about the issue between Taulov and Moo. Which I have already spoken my mind on a good bit. However BE is not what it used to be, so whatever principles you may have had, may not exist anymore. That wasn’t that main point of this thread but I’m glad it has come up so that the man running for Prime Minister can be held responsible for his actions. Criticizing Snap in that second to last paragraph there probably wasn’t the best idea to mend relations with him, but that’s between you two. Thanks for sharing all that you’ve gathered on the Kau vs. Moo dilemma. I personally won’t be happy with that issue until Moo has the rest of his items returned.
    That aside, that incident wasn’t to sew server wide drama. It was to point out to your own crew how Taulov will just lead you down a deeper ditch as PM. Also to back up how awful BE is becoming. The point of this thread once again, is to prevent colonization.

    Palmer again: Cool video mate.

    Anyways, there’s my final post. Feel free to speak anymore thoughts you have. I may have to make another response if someone brings up something new, but for now I think I’ve stated my mind on all this. This thread wasn’t to incite drama as much as it was to expose an issue(s) within the British Empire.

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    ~ Leader of The Coalition ~
    ~ Member of The Asylum ~
    ~ Co-Leader of The Seagulls ~
    ~ Deckie of Angels ~

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