koi0001 wrote:

@GodsDead I was just wondering if I am using /back to get to someones base so I can collect more of the items from the raid is that considered abusing /back

Obviously this is abuse…

It’s a shame that players continue to abuse /back.  As a former Donator who avoided pvp at all costs, I can attest to its usefulness in non-pvp related tasks.  I plan on donating again in the future when I can afford it, and though I’ll miss the feature, it’s important something is done to combat the abuse of the command.

Is it possible to disable using /back to teleport into claimed areas?  If /back worked like /home in that regard, it may be enough to prevent abuse.

I don’t think putting /back on a delay would fix much.  A short delay (a few seconds) would not deter players from abusing the command, and a long delay (a few minutes or more) almost defeats the purpose of having the command at all.  A cooldown would be more appropriate.

If it came down to keeping /back exactly the way it is now or removing it entirely, I would vote to get rid of it.

I support a cooldown/delay for donators on /home.  Even a one or two second delay on /home would be an improvement upon the current situation.

After the battle that took place at @michty’s town today, I need to change my stance on the matter.

Hardtimez has had an offensively placed /sethome just outside the town for a few days now, and comes by from time to time to harass the residents. We are at war with each other, so really it’s no big deal.  Usually, everyone just hides and eventually he goes away.

Earlier today, though, Hardtimez’ crew attacked, and there were enough British crew members online to defend the town and defeat them.  Using either /home or /back, he returned about 30 seconds later to continue the fight.  Whenever one of his crew members died, they would instantly be /tpahere’d back into the fight.  The problem is that if all players teleport back as soon as they die, a siege can literally last forever.  There are auto jail mechanics which are supposed to prevent this, but there were enough players involved that no one alone killed a single individual enough times to trigger them.  The only ways to end such a siege are to kill all of the attackers at the exact same time (almost physically impossible), or for the attackers to get bored and leave. This particular conflict lasted for almost half an hour, and only stopped because Godsdead came on and jailed Hardtimez.

The purpose of /back and /sethome isn’t to allow a Donator’s crew the ability to siege for an infinite amount of time.  If Donators aren’t going to use the perks responsibly, then the perks should be less overpowered.

I support both a delay and a cooldown on /back and /home.

Btw. Eph

I have not set a single home There…. that is a waste and  i cannot afford to do so i have all my homes set in various vaults

People Actually Tped Me There Some Of You’re own people did

So Throwing accusations like that around hurts me

i’m only a man

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-Cap’n HardTimez

The main issue with tp related abuses is the way to obtain proof. If someone breaks some chat-related rules, you just post screenshots here. But if someone uses /back to return to battle they just lost, you wouldn’t be able to capture enough evidence even if you had recording program open on your screen and took screenshots every other second. It will always end up being word against word, when donator is usually trusted more. Not to mention that many people don’t even bother reporting such abuses because they know that their report will be laughed at by the abuser and dismissed for insufficient evidence by staff member.

@godsdead

@hardtimes Spoken like a true abuser. “Seems like you are taking a lot of Perks from the donater’s  Just My opinion” Like what hardtimes? Im not for pay-to-win perks, because that’s not how I run piratecraft; This response alone makes me want to put a cool-down on it, just to spite you being so rude all the time. You have already been warned for constant abuse of PVP hardtimes, you are on thin ice mate. I will remove back from offenders of PVP abuse, this Is NOT what it is for.

@Ephrygian Sadly I cannot just set back not to work in claims, as this isnt how back works, They would be outside of the claim when they use it. For instance someone like hardtimes is PVPing you in your home, you kill him and he respawns next to a chest full of Enhanced Gear, hes in his home now so he can use /back; which then takes him into the claim.

The issue with the back mechanic is that there is no control over it, It is overpowered its nearly a comparison to giving plane /tp to players, since they instantly teleport to where they were without being accepted or wanted there.

Give me one scenario where a cooldown of 2mins would be inadequate, anyone.

If you get killed by a Mob or fall down a hole and die, you can /back to collect gear, then you have to wait 2 mins before you can use it again, there is no need to /back /back /back within minutes of each other.

Teleport will still be instant it will just mean assholes cant /back /back straight to a fight they lost, They would be able to do it once straight away, as its a cooldown. It still does mean that the person getting attacked only has that 2 mins to get safe though, which really isn’t the best, but it will stop harassment.

I will re-name this thread since TPA is the wrong title for it as everyone is talking about back.

I want the donators in here to chime up.