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  • #27704
    PaulOnFire
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    Well Chamberlain, you might not believe it, but a year ago I was a strong advocate of shop keeper responsibility regarding trade safety measures. I have never liked the idea of one player having an advantage over another through cash donations. So when everyone started whining about “player killers making shopping dangerous” all I would do was roll my eyes in disbelief.

    These days I recognise how difficult it is to keep a shop or trade town open and functional, especially when bellends can teleport in right on top of you and kill you. Bislo has done what I’ve thought obvious from the very beginning: Stopped people from being able to teleport in when he needs to do things in peace and quiet. Yes, /back still works, but that’s cheating in a PvP situation and can get you punished.

    #27706
    Bislo
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    It’s not a trap. You know it’s there, If you don’t want to be blasted once the gates close you should not warp in. simple as.. There is no doubt that when the doors close, it is because there is PVP going on, which I do not want, thus closing the doors. If you are stupid enough to be one of the players I want dead and then TP into my warp, then I will kill you with my cannon aimed at the warp – again, there is no doubt the cannon is aimed at the warp, so it shouldn’t surprise you.

    Either way, if it were a trap, then so what? traps are allowed in Pirate craft, If you don’t like the warp, stop using it, I’m not forcing you. I own the town, so I decide when to close it, how I want to close it and how I want to defend it, should someone try to break through the cage.

    And to le Koi; No I’m not saying; Kill me once more m80 and I call harass, no.. Just no. read my post and stop being offended by stuff I haven’t said. I’m not trying to scare anyone, I’m stating that I think what Chamber aims to do is rude, because I have done nothing to try to provoke it, all I do is defend my customers along with the shopkeepers, as well as my town.

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    #27708
    Ken
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    you aren’t defending your customers by trapping players. Your customers will already be dead… that’s why I don’t get why you need to trap when you can just block off trade?

    #27709
    Manda
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    Ok I believe that this has been blown a bit too far out of proportion as to what’s being said here. Yesterday there was a large bloodbath at warp trade, no larger than any we have seen at warp food or shop may I add. These bloodbaths last one day and are over, and as such are considered usually too small a thing to set a death trap for. Now this being said, I believe Bislo has the right to make what he wants on his land. But I do not believe in any way that a death trap is the way to go. If you really had wanted to stop conflict, instead of creating a gated room in which people can warp to be killed by the supposed guards of the warp, implementation of “safe rooms” like the one’s set up in warp food would have been adequate to save lives. I do not see the reason that yesterday’s pvp of which has been seen at the likes of warp shop and warp food is enough to call for such drastic measures. I may have pvped there yesterday along with many other people, but to create a death trap at the warp’s spawn over an event that has been seen at multiple warps before this is slightly absurd…

     

    P.S. Also I’d like to ask the question. What happens if the “warp killer” is in the cage with 2 or more other innocents? Just fire the canon like today?

    "Nec possum tecum vivere, nec sine te."
    -"I can live neither with you, nor without you."- ~ Uta

    #27718
    Block
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    I would just like to point out that the only people that are saying this is okay are those who are with the BE and will not be trapped within the cage. If Godsdead could make that cage pvp free so that people who tp in will not get blown up and allow them to tp out I would agree… however I do not agree with allowing a crew, a public warp to be free to trap players.

    Please don’t kill me for saying this but, Crazy has a very good and valid point, and the fact that warps are already extremely dangerous makes me think that this could be on of the only solutions with the current way trading and shopping is done.

    #27723
    Ken
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    I agree that having the ability to close warps is ideal! However the last time I say this.. I don’t think people should be getting trapped and have to wait 60 seconds to tp out when a donator can just tp out anyway… in all honesty this doesn’t affect me at all as I wont be using that warp and if by chance I did I could just do /home  and get out of there… Again I think trapping players to kill them at a server warp is wrong.

    #27724
    dagersh
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    Just wanna say as a store owner, I think the player made no pvp rule has to be enforced by the owners, If bislo said “if you want a shop you have to chip in and kill warp pvpers” I would gladly help make a contribution to that. It would spice stuff up! of course people shouldnt be forced to kill there own crews.

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    #27762
    Crazy Pirate
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    Just want to make the obvious clear here, it’s neither a death trap, nor a trap; it’s effectively a gate to prevent people entering the warp. And yes, a cannon can be fired at it, but only if the person poses a risk to the town, eg the plan on sieging/are killing shoppers/are on KOS.

    Just making that clear for you all.

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    iOdiwanKenobi
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    Cov is a bit savage

    Ironic

    #27775
    Daniel_McLachlen
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    Hmm there is a lot of flame in this post. Dang near singed a few pixels out of my screen. So I’m gonna keep it short. While i think being able to close off your warp for maintenance is all well and good having a cannon pointed at the…lets call it a “Lobby” makes it a trap. Fine block off your warp and run around the Lobby in circles taunting them all day but call it what it is. It’s a trap…made by one of the servers most renown trap makers _Lego_. Also because i know it will come up that they can just do /trapped while invisible go ahead and build a redstone alert system in the cage that will make a ding go off around the port when someone enters.

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    #27776
    GodsDead
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    TL:DR So, what I get from this is that players were occupying /warp trade, killing everyone and refusing to leave? So the owner decided to lockdown the entrance to stop the chaos – and all the PLAYER KILLERS who went there to kill innocent shoppers are complaining that they got killed unfairly and that it’s the ADMIN‘s fault for not removing warps? And that it’s unfair that the player who paid money to buy the warp can actually control it if he or she likes. And that it’s the player killers’ RIGHT to kill players who go shopping there? *Facepalm* I can’t wait for the new system to be implemented, seriously…

    Sounds like Paul got it in a nutshell.

    Remember, Player rules at player owned warps, How about you just don’t visit the warp?

    As for making the Cage PVP free, I have covered this before many many many times. read the forums.

    Again as I have said there will be an update to Eco, again, be patient, again, I have another pressing matter that im trying to figure out, again this all takes time.

    #27777
    Bislo
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    It’s not built by _Lego_ no, It’s built by me. It’s so sad to see that I cannot do anything to please all, but sadly for the pvp’ers, I’m NOT on your team, I’m on the traders team. They will be protected because from what I hear, chamber is now afraid to warp into warp trade, which is exactly what I want.

    Also, another point to make – Why don’t you use a boat to reach the town if you don’t like using the warp? I’m not hindering anyone from entering the town, I’m limiting the ability to instantly hop in during a fight.

    If you happen to warp in during a fight, I know you will try to escape the cage, cuz it is by all means possible, why? I’m a fair person, so I put holes in it. If you notice, also, the tower I built has cannons to defend in every direction, they even point to the sea in case there are hostile ships approaching. Therefore the “cannon trap” is not what you think it is. I’ve designed it all to make it safe for my guards to defend against God-armours, while they themselves don’t need armour – “that’s unfair” you might say, but it really isn’t. It’s my town so my rules, if you want to oppose my rule, then you can fight me on my terms. Try breaking through the cage or taking the long way in boat, I don’t care. This is to stop the disgusting killings of people who are NEVER ready for when you come sneaking and hack them in the back with your sharpness V sword and matching armour.

    It’s just so very small of you to actively hunt the easy prey, that’s the truth.

    I’m not letting you have the ability to warp in multiple times with several sets of god armour to spare. If you die, go in the cage and try your luck with my cannons, or walk the long way, End.

    Stop whining abut the cage. It is not to limit the right of travel in public warps, it is not a trap for me to gain free stuff from anyone that comes in, it is not to spark this debate – It is to give myself and my defenders a tool to stop warp killers. Like it or not.. cage stays.

    And manda, yes the PVP safety shelters, I’ve also made those – two of them so far to be exact. They are marked with Emerald blocks.

    My goal is to win back warp trade once more from people who think they can step on the traders and shop owners, people who also does other things on this server than kill, kill, kill.. The terror of going somewhere to trade has been way to high these last months, but its over now. I’m shutting down the kill fest. Warp Trade is PVP-Free, respect that, or feel my TNT in your face. I have NO compassion left towards warp killers, none. all gone.

     

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    #27786
    The Queen
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    This topic can be ended simply

    If you feel as if the warp trade is offensive then don’t type the damn command /warp trade

    If you go to warp trade and have the mentality you wanna pvp then don’t come and whine on here if you pvped.

    The warp is owned by Bislo so he may do what ever he feels is nessessary just like Lego to protect the warp.

    Will people respect the rules no but this is a way on teaching them hey! If you pvp we shut down the warp for a period of time and slowly people will stop wanting to pvp there because not just that one person is being punished but everyone is from that persons action.

    I think Bislo and Lego are doing what they should and do what they need to do. Now chamberlain I give you some credit you made good points but it’s clear to say he may do what he feels at his own warp.

     

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    #27792
    Grandma
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    This is absolutely awesome. Why does all the exciting things happen after I quit?

    Since everyone pretty much covered the whole topic and I’m not picking sides, (since both sides have great points that directly oppose each other’s root cause), I’ll just say a few points:

    Chamberlain1 is without a doubt not using /warp trade to pick on the weak and innocent. His intentions and actions are not of a “bully” or “harasser”. Chamberlain1 has literally assassinated almost every active player on the server, whether they’re painfully weak or undeniably strong. As a matter of fact, his primary targets are usually players that have a big name on the server for their pvp skills, and he’s made even the strongest pirates rage. Just wanted to make that clear.

    I never thought I’d see the day Bislo1 would become a badass. His decision to protect his own warp is not only respectable, but admirable. Although Chamberlain1 makes some fair points about the cannon/cage combo on an ideological level, according to my understanding Bislo1’s cannon/cage combo is NOT against the rules by any means. As a matter of fact, it’s a pretty damn good idea.

    I do feel that Chamberlain1’s point on warps requires consideration, however, it also appears as though GodsDead is working on new updates that will inevitably help deal with these issues anyway.

    All in all, I’m just a spectator in all this. And as a spectator I must say, just the conflict between two players who are powerful in two different ways is incredible to watch and adds a rich flavor to the story of PirateCraft, (save all the excess drama lol). I might log in to witness the cage!


    I'm just a sweet ol' grandma tryna understand wtf I just read.

    #27800
    The Queen
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    The Grandma Has Spoken!!

     

    Mother and soul protector of the Elven Empire

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