BE and Hydra: Conspirators?
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March 7, 2018 at 4:11 am #56837
First things first.
LONG LIVE THE PENGUIN CO.! In response to the events that follow in this article, Penguin Co. will soon open a warp shop shop! Penguin co. is long from being out of buisness, despite the fact that the shop is gone. We can still do warp meet, folks.
For everything that follows, I have screenshot evidence of the things people said and did, although not of the initial attack. Please tell me if there’s a certain event that you want proven.
Today I joined at 10:00pm eastern (or thereabouts). I found to my horror that someone blew up (likely with tnt) my shop and *some* of the adjacent farmland. They stole my chests too. I also found that someone had disabled claimexplosion protection.
First of all, a lot of people have motives to destroy my shop. Some people just plain hate me. But merchants such as BE and Hydra do not like to see me selling so cheaply.
The only two people who have /trust at this location were online in the past 6 hours.: Great_man_7, and Benthebruce. However, I owe large sums of money to both of them. They would both loose thousands of dollars by committing this crime. BUT- the villager farm which benthebruce was working on at my base (also the reason I owe him 2k still and why I /trusted him) – was not destroyed. That fact goes against benthebruce. This was in a hidden location, but so was my vault, which was attacked. The fact that the vault was hidden goes in BE’s favor, since if he was a crook and he knew about it you would think he would destroy it.
Great_man_7 has mined hundreds of diamonds and given them over without a second thought for very little money. We’ve known each other since EM was still a thing. It wouldn’t make much sense for him to do it, especially since he’s mined a stack of diamonds just now.
However, one of my chests, which was robbed during this attack, had the sword “HackFalcon” in it. A few hours before, SmokeyRivers had given me the sword back (it’s a long story). I had put it in one of the chests today. P1ndr0p alleged that a sword of the same name was sold to him, about 30 mins ago, by Benthebruce. This can’t be correct, since benthebruce logged 50 minutes ago at that point. So either p1ndr0p is not correct, or is lying. Then, p1 killed Trooper306 to “prove” it was authentic. First of all, why would trooper volunteer to be killed? He’s got other things to do besides prove to me that a sword was authentic. Secondly, P1ndr0p could’ve easily killed me to prove the same thing. Third, P1 may have named the sword to help frame BE. See, if Benthebruce had sold p1 the sword, it would mean BE members are crooks.
Browe_ then killed someone with a sword named HackFalcon, likely a different sword, just to “prove” that p1’s hackfalcon could’ve been fake. Again, BE trying to prove they were in the clear.
Someone obviously knows a lot about this. They know I had a sword with that name. They know how the sword and the trustees and everything fits into the puzzle. They know that someone is trying to frame someone. Both BE and Hydra seem to have a reason to frame the other group, so which do I believe? Hydra has destroyed another base of mine before, but they admitted to that one immediately.
Both Hydra and BE are merchants who both are affected by the amount and price of what I sell. Who did it? Did both of them collaborate? That would be unlikely. Is there a deep conspiracy on the server? TAS members were being hostile to me too, I wonder if that has anything to do with anything. Of course, several TAS members usually are.
Finally, my shop was flattened to the GROUND. Whoever did this didnt just want my valuables. They wanted to destroy my business.
If BE attacked my base, this will be a very deep case.
So, I’d like to know 3 things:
1) Could someone from staff come just to confirm the explosion wasn’t using a glitch, or something like that to blow up my base (maybe cannons or something), and possibly tell me some information about what happened
2) Could someone provide me with more evidence than I already have and
3) Is there a chance my shop will be rolled back? I’ve heard conflicting things about this. Some people have gotten rollbacks, some haven’t, and there doesn’t seem to be any criteria for it. This was a pretty serious grief, if that counts for anything.
Finally, I have untrusted everyone and turned claimexplosions off in one of the claims.
I rest my case, and would appreciate any assistance.
March 7, 2018 at 4:34 am #56839The British Empire love cheap prices, how else would we equip our invincible army of deckhands?
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~ Original owner of HMS Sovereign (Phantom Sovereign) ~March 7, 2018 at 4:36 am #56840@GodsDead or another staff if you would be willing I would like to tell you what happened, if any staff would like to tell me what happened and how my base was destroyed.
March 7, 2018 at 4:42 am #56841Browe_, there is like a 0% great_man_7 did it. Say we rule him out. Let’s see. We were co-leaders in EM, co-leaders in ORE, buisiness partners, he EVEN was trusted at my other (wealthier) base for a long time. That base was targeted even more than my current one. Well the only other trustee is benthebruce, and unless someone glitched my base, he enabled claim explosions. I’m not pointing fingers yet, and I’d like to think benthebruce is trustworthy, I just have a lot of evidence that BE may have been involved.
March 7, 2018 at 6:06 am #568431. No one glitches exploding a base. Clearly you got raided.
2. Only “evidence” you really have/need is that you got your stuff blown up. So yeah.
3. Rollbacks do not happen often and usually only occur when someone unnecessarily grief an entire giant base. Also if/when these rarely happen, no chest items or expensive blocks are kept. Its litterally just a base structure, so you’re not getting anything back. From what you’ve said looks like someone just blew up a small shop that can be rebuilt.
I’d say this is more of a butt-hurt-and-complaining post, but I do enjoy the conspiracy. 🤔
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~ Deckie of Angels ~March 7, 2018 at 11:44 am #56844@anandak i belive it was great man 7, first off hydra is KNOWN to back stab. that co leader thing is just a mask, for example
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turns on hitboxes when pvpingMarch 7, 2018 at 2:19 pm #56845Finally, I have untrusted everyone and turned claimexplosions off in one of the claims.
This was only thing that made sense of the entire post.
Hope you will get it all figured out. Keep us updated of all twists and turns – I lost track twice so far.
Also, keep all the logs; might be a valuable source for an A&E movie script.Best of luck !
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March 7, 2018 at 2:19 pm #56846I need to do a further investigation, but any evidence would be appreciated.
March 7, 2018 at 2:56 pm #56847I had nothing to do with any grief, tnt, raiding, stealing, or other mischief. Staff can verify that.
benthebruce
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British EmpireMarch 7, 2018 at 3:16 pm #56848If staff can verify it, please, someone from staff come over.
March 7, 2018 at 5:31 pm #56851Nothing was hacked into, staff are not here to tell you who did things, or what was said, and you should know not to trust anyone.
How about you do your own investigation? If you only had a couple of people trusted, surely that can’t be that hard to do?
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From my personal perspective, you had a very successful and cheap shop. From what I heard from friends, and what you can imagine you must have made a lot of people upset with your low prices – taking away their customers. As such, its more likely that a rival of yours did this, rather than someone who bought from your shop regularly. Maybe make a list of possible people that were annoyed with your shop and chat with them? All part of owning a shop on here – know your rivals 😛
Still, keep your hopes up, this should be a good lesson learnt. :/
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@XeronMarch 7, 2018 at 9:31 pm #56853Mate your not going to get anything out of this. One of your mates might of this time not been the person you thought they were.
If I were you, start over and just not give either of them permissions to the claim/shop unless if you properly trust them.
I also recommend making your ‘statements’ clearer to follow and more concise.
BUT- the villager farm which benthebruce was working on at my base (also the reason I owe him 2k still and why I /trusted him) – was not destroyed. That fact goes against benthebruce. This was in a hidden location, but so was my vault, which was attacked. The fact that the vault was hidden goes in BE’s favor, since if he was a crook and he knew about it you would think he would destroy it.
Like, reading that multiple times, I don’t even know what that is supposed to mean at the end of the day. Did he or did he not? Your reasoning is out of wack and is hard to follow, even if there was a chance you were going to get compensated, this lack of being able to retell facts works against you in my opinion.
March 8, 2018 at 3:18 pm #56859I didnt read it all as its Drama.
Only people you have given trust can turn on explosions and raid, its THAT SIMPLE. There is no other way, and has in 5 years never been another way to destroy someone’s claimed land.
- Sub-claim land you dont fully trust people on.
- use permissions to only use buttons in claims if you dont want people building/breaking/toggeling explosions.
TRUST Litearlly means what it says, TRUST, you are TRUSTING THAT PERSON with everything in that claim, if you dont TRUST them then DONT TRUST THEM! I legit cannot explain this any simpler.
Closed for Drama and because you trusted someone that betrayed you, so stupidly simple.
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