OfficialRS wrote:

I have now started my construction on a new country I have plans for,the country will be controlled by the Polynesian Empire but can have some parts under other allied Empire control.Country.

Btw, its 3 months, and within reason; even if the player is active, if the claim is never used, has nothing in it, and is there to simply annoy, it will be removed; a house often won’t be removed, if its completed and a decent build, while a dirt hut or an empty claim, even belonging to the most active player, is likely to be removed if its hindering your towns expansion.

Could these allied Empires, that look after some parts of your county, be British? Out of interest, purely; I can get your country a livemap icon, and acceptance into the largest Piratecraft empire, with 50+ members. 🙂

The bad point is: shops in minecraft can’t really work with the economics from amazon and stuff.

Because everytime we drive a price down every new member of the server will adapt to the price.
That leads to the adaption of the £ we use.Sooner or later i guess one pound will be worth 1 diamond and therefore most other items will be worth something like 0,01 £ ….now you regret giving markus all those 0,0019£donations, eh? 😉

However this happens because piratecraft£ only have one way to fix their worth, through woodprices in cove.
On other servers servershops give their money some kind of set value becuase they offer a larger set of buy and sell shops.
Here everything is up to us and therefore we can make 100£ worth one dirt or a diamond worth 1£ all based on supply and demand.(also we have sellclaimblocks ofcourse)

Because of that i don’t think we should set the prices for diamonds that high because in the right moment a Diamond can be worth a stack of logs or a single claimblock, it all depends on supply and demand.
THis marketcontroll Machi is trying to do is nice but in the end it would be better to let everyone try around….also sooner or later greedier traders will come and push those cheap shops away.

(if you trade in a set community(crew or group) you could of course do set prices this works great in a set local area where you need special ressources and stuff)

But in the end larger marketcontroll makes no sense….at least not to me.
(If large shopowners think the prices are to low: close your shops until the prices are better for you? )

@Azuries @Machi – I also set up a group for this purpose (and similar purposes) a while back! I’d be happy to produce regular-ish reports on what appears to be happening to the economy etc. over time. One thing that could very easily flaw this all, though, is if not all the merchants joined, as one merchant underpricing compared to everyone else is bound to see more demand, and therefore experience greater revenues and profits.

Anyways – here’s the link to that group I made: http://piratemc.com/groups/piratecraft-trade-association/

I’ll send you both invites, but it’s really up to you to decide if you want to join or not. I know that @CrazyPirate and @Bislo1 are both already members, too 😀

PaulOnFire wrote:

Check out this old thread: http://piratemc.com/groups/settlements/forum/topic/application-for-town-status/. It lists the basic conditions that one so-called town should have by Minecraft standards. Cities are very large towns with more developed infrastructure. The closest a town ever got to being classed as a city was Evermoore as far as I know. As for nations and empires… Well. Classing them by number of claim blocks is a bit silly, as many players have over 9k of them. I don’t think a single person should profess to rule over an “empire” when it’s only him or her and one or two friends working together. But hey, if that’s what people want to do I guess it’s up to them. Every great empire has to start somewhere. Groups on this scale are a rather new-fangled thing for PirateCraft. I’d say the British Empire is the only current “proper” empire what with 40 odd members and a decent number of settlements dotted around the map. Even so, it’s still at a very early stage of development. In the long term, I look forward to seeing what effects this will have on society as a whole. Already we are seeing rebels, freeloaders and copy-cats emerging. The days of exclusive pirate law are growing short, it’s the organised nations who will shape the future.

I just made an educated guess when it came to the 9k blocks for an empire, i only have the average starting amount so 9k looked really out of reach for me which is why i will say adapt it into a fair amount and have an X ammount of crew members to obtain these statuses.

Check out this old thread: http://piratemc.com/groups/settlements/forum/topic/application-for-town-status/. It lists the basic conditions that one so-called town should have by Minecraft standards. Cities are very large towns with more developed infrastructure. The closest a town ever got to being classed as a city was Evermoore as far as I know.

As for nations and empires… Well. Classing them by number of claim blocks is a bit silly, as many players have over 9k of them. I don’t think a single person should profess to rule over an “empire” when it’s only him or her and one or two friends working together. But hey, if that’s what people want to do I guess it’s up to them. Every great empire has to start somewhere.

Groups on this scale are a rather new-fangled thing for PirateCraft. I’d say the British Empire is the only current “proper” empire what with 40 odd members and a decent number of settlements dotted around the map. Even so, it’s still at a very early stage of development. In the long term, I look forward to seeing what effects this will have on society as a whole. Already we are seeing rebels, freeloaders and copy-cats emerging. The days of exclusive pirate law are growing short, it’s the organised nations who will shape the future.

May I suggest that we add an official system to sort this out based on claim blocks owned by a certain crew.

500 blocks- hamlet

1000- village

1500- small town

2000- town

3000- city

9000- country/state

over 9000 empire.

The system could also include certain buildings so you need a capital building such as a palace, fort or parliament.

Or you could have a trade district within each sector of your territory which would make living in these areas bearable and easy, railroads or rafts to connect the settlements that belong to an “empire” or maybe a monument.

It’s just that I agree with sting about new players (such as myself) claiming to be an empire or city if all they have is a population of two and a single building.

And I agree with bislo who states that we are evolving out of our small tribes and becoming more organised, this should not be hindered as it creates a feeling of lore and history to the world and adds a new sense of order, this could even end up turning the game into a semi-MMORPG where which faction you join gives you a certain sense of belonging to a community and protection from griefers in the unclaimed lands of the wilderness.

But I doubt that’s the way the Piratecraft team wants to see things going so we must respect that and adapt to their current system plus the word empire adds weight to your faction and could be a mental deterrent to griefers as they will assume they are going to be flocked by wave after wave of vengeful players.

(Sorry for the essay)

Also, here would be an example.

Reptaria buys sand from Shop A, then uses wood fuel to smelt it into glass. Then sells it at Shop B for MORE money.

Godsy, I was thinking about the blocks we missed. We should have a Shop E and F that sells blocks that were missed. One Shop could be decoration, another could be spawn eggs, and other rare items that aren’t displayed. These two shops couldn’t have a selling part, so what you buy you can’t get your money back.

EX No. 2 KarimNaba buys wood and stone to make a shop, she buys 8 flowers. She realizes that she meant to get 4 not 8. She can’t sell them, so she could auction them, so she still gets some money. Then she buys stonebrick, she uses it all. She buys some more from the shop, then sails to another for decor items. On the way she came across  Bensterpc carrying decor items, she robs Bensterpc, and carries on.

She how piratecraft’s economy should be based around that. Also, I ask that shops are near each other, like the sea in the center of the live map, have one at four corners.

@Godsdead

One important thing: These skins aren’t yet finished. Please don’t use them for the present. Quality has been mentioned before, we only want the best for PirateCraft. That is why the skins still have to be updated to a more HD format. Small changes can make a big difference:

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I like your opinion, but you probably won’t stop people from naming their towns “nations” as most of these people probably don’t look at the forum or don’t have an account. Or they just don’t care. The only thing I don’t fully agree with is how you define a nation. A nation hasn’t to be a group of towns. It has to be a group of people which are connected in some ways. Also, a single city can be a separate nation(history confirms that). But it would have to have a lot of citizens(of course scaling down to the population of PirateCraft) and enough power to keep the nation independent, so the city would have to be  relatively big or/and well fortified and, like you said, not to be a tiny town with 2-3 members.

Unfortunately, it doesn’t really work in minecraft as very few elements of this game are meant to be realistic. I think most people on the server play in small groups or want to grow powerful alone, because in this game you don’t really need other people to survive. And nobody stops the constant increase of the amount of small towns called “nations” by their owners, I see a few options why:

1. There isn’t any dominating power among the non-claimed lands
2. Local people are afraid to fight the new people as they can just respawn and fight back like without an end
3. Local people don’t feel powerful enough to fight the new people

Although I support your ideas(along with the naming suggestion 🙂 ), I think the mentioned process isn’t going to stop, unless groups of people from nearby lands will start to unite on a bigger scale(like the British, but in a more unitary way to have more control over the territory) but I have no idea if it works in this game.

Well, that was pretty long, sometimes I just like to tell everything I have to tell 😛