I think people that donate for public warps should be allowed to choose if they want the warp to be pvp free or not…..

Making warps paying is a non sense as most of players don’t have a regular money income other than sellclaim (when they know sellclaim exist …)

This allows me to limit shops per user (Does this mean we need to select the shop area?)

I think it’s a limit of the number of Buy/Sell sign a player can have.
There is also another setting allowing to set worldguard areas where shops are allowed or forbidden.

To solve the problem of big warp shops, one solution could be encouraging existing warps to rent more plots/houses to players or opening a public merchant area (Having a big market like that http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2013/155/9/d/minecraft__waterfall_market__theroleplayworld__by_gamerpeons-d67toy5.jpg with plots rented to players for their small shop could be awesome)

I think the timer thing would be awesome, but is it possible to implement it is another story. I think this really would help alot, since player coming to shop are protected ofr say 5 minutes? shopping doesnt take alot of time so i think 5 minutes would be ok..

I know that it would be unfair if a warp would be totally pvp free, then i could just go around my city forever not fearing anyone, then go raid someone and tp back to safety..

So with that solution buyers will be protected while i will not be protected. This is also nice because if there was anyone wanting to kill me, they would be better of to just travel to my location instead of popping out of a warp and insta killing me without me even noticing, which is something i am really bugged about atm.

And also regarding the rentable plot thing for people not having a warp, I have really been trying to provide that opportunity for other players since i first made my warp. I thought it would be cooler if we had a more “alive” marked than just one or two “admin” shops.. (when i joined the only two shops running were iamthereapers and skymanjays).

There are some problems i have run into though..

1. Rental needs to be managed by me manually (i know we have talked in forums about a fix for that)

2. whenever someone doesnt respect their rental agreement with me, i can simply throw them out of their shop, but i cannot have the trade signs removed, since i cannot touch other players trade signs. Maybe the new plugin has a way to fix this idk?

So thats really the two things thats setting me off from making more shops for players. Its just really really time consuming and annoying ish to constantly bug players not respecting their agreements to me.

I just wanted to say goodbye, WogWorld, who I am honored to count among my friends.

I am grave-digging this topic as it is still current. This particular thread is almost a year old and the decision was made (actively or passively) to not make player-run shops PVP free.

In the meantime, the situation has deteriorated even further. Shops are actually even more dangerous now than they were back then and many are chronically understocked due to fewer people visiting warps.

Originally my personal opinion was that shop owners should use redstone to provide safety for customers. Some do these days, such as /warp food, but the fact remains that players can warp in immediately, sometimes invisible, and ambush players that way before they’re even detected. Warp killers get rich quick and cheaply at the expense of honest customers. The only way to go shopping in relative peace is with an invisibility effect active.

I’ve heard there is an idea in the works to remove shop warps in favour of some other system. Is this a true rumour or do we need to reignite the discussion surrounding PVP free shopping zones?

All /warp owners already are donators, as there is no other way to get the warp then to donate.

To be honest, I agree that pvp-free warps should be an option. Warp killing is so openly wrong and yet so common, that it requires server-side restriction. PvP free warps were needed a year ago, and they are desperately needed now. However, I believe that pvp-free claims should be allowed for shops only. Having pvp-free claims obtainable through donations for other purposes is pay to win, which I know this server does not support.

Oh and its an honor to talk to some old faces again!