I too often empty my inventory before leaving, and only buy in small amounts. I am forced to hold shift, due to the fat that it is always far to laggy for me to fight back. Shops should be PVP free in my opinion.

I usually dont hear about gameplay like this until someone has had enough!

The PVP free shops is a player based rule at present, a lot of people get this confused when playing.

I outlined a few issues with having PVP free zones via PM to wog, ill post them here too.

Negative:

• Who gets their area PVP free? There is no way I want people spamming me even more asking for a PVP free zone, this is making me nervious already. “But thisplayer got a PVP free shop, why cant I?”
• This will expand to people asking for a PVP free personal base.
• People will flee and camp in pvp free zones to hide from combat
• This has to be setup via an admin, as the flags are set via Worldguard not GriefPrevention, I tried using a third party flags system for GP but it was aweful, this means re-sizing and making new plots is another admin job.

Positives:

• Peaceful shopping
• Seller Protection from Siege
• No siege damage

Half of me wants to protect shops, and the other half wants to keep it brutal, When theres options to siege and rob shops, that makes the playing exiting! Maybe big shops should have traps or a small army to protect the area.

I never ment for economy to bloom the way it has, It started from one person asking me to enable trade signs in essentials.

We need a rule to define how a PVP area is set/sized, Either set areas which would be very hard seeing that people have already setup shops around the world. One option could be its only avalible to people that bought warps, then again im not a big fan of introducing this either!

What are peoples opinions? If we get enough ideas, then I can pass it to a vote.

We talked a bit with Callie about that during the night as the problem is real.

I’m not fond of the pvp-free area areas, we’re in a pirate world after all. But I totally understand the problem with the harassement of the few last days.

We have the solution of bounties and others “Kill on sight lists” but that kind of bully player don’t care and will come with bad items/armors to annoy players again and again without fear of being killed.

What if we could bring a real “risk” to those mean raids? Having an improved jail system could be the solution. I’ve never seen jails being really used on this server (with the vote roulette exception). What if a high enough bounty could lead to a jail time of a few hours when the player is killed? It would respect the spirit of a pirate world and could slow down the attacks.

(I don’t know exactly how it could be managed technically as I didn’t took time to look for plugins)

What about PVP only outside of ALL claims?

Players who have purchased a shop warp should be entitled to a PVP-free zone. There’s no “cheating” or reason to get upset when someone has paid real cash for it. As I said eons ago when I first joined, I’d pay to be able to make an area or myself as a player PVP-toggleable, because all I want to do is build.

Bounties are useless. It’s more of a joke and a way to troll people minding their business. People place bounties on others without reason, just to make others hunt them. Half of the people with bounties end up using a ‘friend’ to kill them and claim the money.

/seige should be the ONLY way to injure someone inside their claim. If JoeMC2003 wants to build a house and doesn’t claim his area first, he’s open to attack. If it’s claimed and StabbyMcKillKill tries to kill him, it should read that JoeMC2003 is in a protected claim and give information on how to /seige him. It’s a temporary fix, I think, because then we need to revisit the rules.

Already we have people brazenly saying that they use a friend once a month to log on, claim some things, and stay off so they can “never be seiged” while building or whatever else. Unicorn recently boasted about that, and I asked Markusi13 about it, who said it’s okay? When I had asked if using an alt account to claim land to be unseigeable was permissible, I was told No – it’s cheating.

While I expect there to be fighting, killing, and looting based on the theme of the server, I do not expect to be harrassed by bounties from players I’ve never spoken to or around or tracked all over the LiveMap, out to the middle of the ocean or deep underground, just because someone is ‘bored’ and looking for something to do. It’s not about the loot. It’s not about the piracy. It’s pure unreasonable PVP simply because there seems to be the idea that because “lol i r a pirat, this is a pirat server, fite back or shut up.” I’m seriously fed up with this childish bullying of anyone and everyone based on that excuse and I’m really sick of hearing, from the mods, that being spawn-killed and chased for DAYS is okay and should be handled by the player alone.

I work. I’ve donated money. Finding a PVP-free solution is NOT HARD.
Here’s two links to get us started.

http://www.spigotmc.org/resources/pvpmanager.845/

http://www.spigotmc.org/resources/hubhelper.174/

I really don’t want to leave the server. Already I’ve been getting on less and less because the game is no longer fun.

Few quick points:

We can toggle all claims to protect people, but then what’s the point of having PVP?

We would need yet another plugin to manage PVP, we have so many already its getting stupid.

There has not been a solution given that solves all points I have raised, Give me a balanced fair solution and we can trial it, without this being hot headed and stamping your feet on the floor gets nowhere, there are many reasons disabling PVP for only certain players is a really bad move, and very unbalanced.

I am not the only member of staff, all player based issues need to be sent to a member of staff Via our forum http://piratemc.com/forums/server-support/ Remove the bad players, you remove the issue.

So far we have these unbalanced ideas:

• Disable PVP in our 5000 claims.
• Disable PVP for players that choose to be PVP free (que the 10000 messages every single time I log in, of “hacker” I cant kill them, because I have time to deal with that shit)
• Have Worldguard areas that are PVP free that someone has to manage claims in for shops, who gets these, who sets these up? who managed these claims?

PaulonFire I would like to say many people can’t donate, this would not completely wipe out the problem. Someone could use the shop as a base.

Anonymous wrote:

PaulonFire I would like to say many people can’t donate, this would not completely wipe out the problem. Someone could use the shop as a base.

Yep, unfortunately there isn’t going to be a 100% fair solution however hard we try. But this proposal WOULD stops more safe areas from being used than are actually needed. For those who don’t donate for a warp, there are ample creative ways of making shops safe with redstone contraptions. As for the shop being used as an unraidable base… /siege rules should apply to the safe zone as they currently already do (enabling PVP against only the owner IF he’s hanging around that claim).

Please correct me if this isn’t possible from a plugin point of view.