Ugly Boxes removal
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October 3, 2019 at 1:38 pm #63696
I can say that Sj instead of fixing his box (before his ban for advertising) he helped Melon(his crewmate) at making his new box base. Here the cords https://map.piratemc.com/?worldname=PirateCraft_1&mapname=surface&zoom=6&x=744&y=64&z=36it is under 1k of blocks from spawn.
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Lego is a good toi.October 3, 2019 at 1:41 pm #63698<span style=”color: #1c1e29;”>If I add something i can say that Sj instead of fixing his box (before his ban for advertising) he helped Melon(his crewmate) at making his new box base. Here the cords it is under 1k of blocks from spawn.</span>
https://map.piratemc.com/?worldname=PirateCraft_1&mapname=surface&zoom=6&x=744&y=64&z=36
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Lego is a good toi.October 3, 2019 at 6:54 pm #63703Moving his base as opposed to regening/deleting has always been my priority. See it from my perspective:
- Delete/remove his base – Its unfair towards him, as he’s been there almost as long as you guys, he’s using it as an active base, and its pretty much his main base.
- Do nothing – Its unfair towards you guys, as you have a wonderful city nearby and his boxes are an eyesore and are getting in the way.
- Move his base away from you – Perfect solution, everyone’s happy. This is what I have wanted all along.
- Make the ugly base less ugly – Solves the solution of it being an eyesore, but his base is still in your way.
Options 1. and 2. I am not willing to do, I am not conformable with removing an active player’s main base who has been there almost as long as you, but I don’t want you guys to be burdened with an eyesore nearby – I want you guys to stay and keep on working on that city, its a lovely place. We aren’t talking about a horsia box sort of thing that is impossible to make ‘less ugly’, we’re talking about a 25-30 block high stonebrick cylinder, and a 25 block high box that are easy to hide under the correct terrain.
Gods has repeatedly said he will not move bases anymore, I currently don’t have the permissions to sort out moving bases, but Gods has told me he will sort that for me ASAP so I can in future host events smoother and solve these complex issues when no realistic alternative remains. That means, at least for now, option 3 is not available… but it is not excluded either.
That leaves option 4 – making the base less ugly so at least you won’t have to look at an ugly stonebrick box anymore. It doesn’t solve the issue long term, but I was hoping it would solve it short-term while I wait for my perms to be sorted out.
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Now, just so its crystal clear for you two:
- You two approached me I think twice in the past months or so and complained about his base – rightfully so. You asked for it to be regened/moved I think back in May/June – I asked Gods, he said that’s not an option. I ask SJ what he is planning with his base (as I don’t want a horsia box there) and he informs me I quote “A castle above the central base, with 4 autofarm boxes surrounding it. Above this will be a town with walls, and a castle“. I gave him the benefit of the doubt and moved on.
- You then approach me about his claims claimblocking you a while later – I remove his original claim that was touching one of your towers and loosely say “the swamp is SJ’s, the rest is yours” if you remember. SJ informs me that he wanted a perfectly square claim, which is when I got in a call with you two to try and see if you’d be willing to give up a small amount of your claim, such that he can be happy and won’t bother you long-term. I don’t force you to anything, I don’t act on anything – Pashjn insists he is not giving up any land so fair enough, and then he starts accusing me of bias against him and becomes hostile. Elo, I seem to remember you trying to persuade him to also give up the land as a sort of “cmon dude, its not worth the trouble”. Pash once again insists on his claims, which is fair enough and we leave it at that.
- Then, early September you make this request. The day I told SJ that he had 2 weeks to make it less ugly (week beginning Monday 9th September), I hopped on with him and helped him terraform a little as he didn’t know what I meant. I sat down with him for 20 mins with /fly, and did that side of the box you see on map with him. I had no intention of doing anymore for him – it wouldn’t look good if I did the terraforming, and also decided if it would be good or not. I’m not a fucking moron, I know how bad that looks. Its his base, he puts in the work.
- You have been waiting ages for him to make it look better, I know the struggle of having an ugly structure near you – I had the same issue with my port back in 2016-18 with my port. I helped him out to get him on the right track, I anticipated he’d be finished by the end of the week as can be seen from my comment above. I was still anticipating Gods would be able to move the base, I messaged him later that evening about it (because I was sent the ticket you made), he said “no, I’m not moving bases anymore”. At least making his base look nicer would be a good short-term solution.
- On Saturday the 21st, I told SJ he only had 24 hours to make his base look good or it would be regened. SJ told me he has a bunch of exams coming up, and was unable to do much work in the 2 weeks I set him as he needed to revise, and asked for an extension. I gave him the benefit of the doubt and gave him an additional 1 week until beginning of August.
- Sunday the 22nd – I get promoted to Super-Admin, but the permissions are super old and outdated. Gods has to re-do the permissions for super-admin from scratch, I’m essentially admin but with a few extra chat-related commands as he ran out of time. I request extended perms to worldedit for //cut, //paste, //copy (that I would normally have with superadmin anyway) so I can sort out this situation that is clearly going to end badly unless SJ is gone. Extended worldedit would also help with events, shipbattles, etc etc. Gods agrees, but doesn’t have time to sort it out. Elo, you decide to go passive aggressive in this situation, as you have done several times to me now – but I’m still willing to find a solution for everyone. No sweat.
- Saturday 28th September – I inform SJ that he once again has 24 hours to make his base better, or it will be regened. He comes up with excuses again that he has exams this week, I ignore them as he has had plenty time to sort it out. He gets is arse in gear and builds another big section of terraformed land.
- Sunday 29th September – I’m very busy so I can’t get on until Tuesday evening (blame uni), and I inform him that I will make my decision then. I inform Gods about the situation once more, begging him to move the base so it would solve the issue in a manner everyone would be happy with – he is reluctant. I quote Gods:
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- I agree fully ^^^ That brings us the original option 2 – that we would simply regen the top of his base, that way there is NO eyesore whatsoever, but he still keeps most of his base – but once again it doesn’t solve the issue fully and long-term.
- Tuesday evening (1st october): I make my post above, informing you there are 2 options available and that I’m trying to work on a solution that both sides can benefit from – that being pretty much moving the base (that Gods won’t do), but I am hoping and praying for the perms to do it. I look at SJ’s base and inform him that I’ll probably be cutting the top of his base off and regening the surface so it blends in, he’s pissed at me obviously. I then have to run to do some IRL stuff, tell him to move his chests to the lower levels to get ready for the regen.
- Wednesday evening (2nd October): I pop back (after being unable to get online again yesterday); SJ has finished ‘covering’ his circle. It looks alright, I show Gods and agrees that SJ had done a pretty good job… at least it was miles better than what it looked like before. I make my reply to you here basically saying that I don’t plan on regening the top of it anymore as he’s made it look significantly better than what it was. At least for the time being it was a good solution, I knew you two weren’t gonna be happy… as you’ll only be happy once he’s gone. It was an uphill battle from the start – but hey, he finally did stuff. I inform Gods that I’ll just tick this request off as ‘done for now’ while I wait on perms.
- Thursday (3rd October… today) you two make these replies. And this brings us here.
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I honestly truly don’t know what sort of little world you two are living in that makes you think I hate you and only want the worse for you… why? Because I told you to calm down on discord a few times? It seems in your eyes all I do is “yes, I hate Pashjn and Elo but I do everything cysteen asks of me… so i make them mad which is funny“. Please, why would I do that? I get along with pretty much everyone on here, its always been my duty to be chill with everyone – means I can do my moderation job better as I’m not driven by a dislike for people. Elo, I set you as helper and gave Pashjn builder… I gave you a guardian farm basically for free out of friendship… we had a fun time with our Syndicate-Hlaalu flame war – I enjoyed it at the beginning I really did, and I thought you would too. I didn’t hate you, I didn’t dislike you, I liked you – you are a solid helper, solid builder, solid media person, and I loved our little ‘shop rivallry’.
You accused me of bias because I told Pashjn not to egg Cysteen’s shop – guess what it lags everyone in the shop area; I get plenty of reports… from people who use your shops too. When people egged your shop, guess who removed the chickens there too? Yes, me. But you don’t see these things, because I assume you don’t want to see them. You got mad at me when I told you to chill over that iron farm dispute – you accused me of bias and became passive aggressive because ‘I clearly do everything Cysteen wants’. I yelled at her too, but she didn’t attack me, or become hostile, or get passive aggressive. There’s a big difference there. I wanted iron farms gone, you didn’t. Fair enough – they weren’t removed, I’ll live on – I don’t care enough to get bitter or worked up about it lol.
I know we have our differences in opinions, that became obvious with the Iron farm drama lol, but I’ve never punished you or something…? If you two would truly be people I disliked and I would be that “bias staff member” you think I am; I’m sure I would have warned you by now or something? But no… I know when things are going a little downhill and I asked you and Pash on separate times in discord to chill when the discussions was going sour. It was best for everyone to just chill, take a step back. But I didn’t warn you or anything? Yet you took all that incredibly personal… I mean I admit when we had that DM chat about nitro scamming Cysteen (that I was only giving you a heads up on), and you gave me a very suggestive comment, I flipped – but I know I did, and apologized. You’re the one who later made a fake discord message attempting to slander me and call it a ‘meme’, you’re the one who told me to “shut the fuck up” several times during that big banning session when I was trying to solve the issue, you’re the ones calling me bias for attempting to cool down a situation, you and Pash are the ones who’ve been hostile/passive aggressive towards me for a while.
Did I ever get any apology from you guys? No. Why would I. I’m a bad and bias staff member, why should you apologize to me.
Look Elo, you’ve done a fantastic job on BotM, as media – better job than any of us in the staff team could have imagined. You and Pashjn are fantastic builders as can be seen by your builds, we value them very much as we do your contributions to our community. What we don’t appreciate is a toxic relationship, which you two seem to have built up with me, and are running some sort of feud against me and our ‘bias staff team’ which we all don’t understand. I mean you or Pashjn no harm, I want everyone to get along and do what they do best – help the community. Its always been my intention to solve problems in a way that’s fair, and offers a solution both sides are happy with – I did it with ROME-SPQR too when I removed the island they were arguing over, that way everyone’s happy.
I’ve offered you the opportunity to start fresh with me after our brief argument; it was ugly for both of us. I see no point in being bitter at people, its too much effort to dislike people – this whole situation here? Been really draining, honestly. The amount of times I’ve spammed our staff chat with this and annoyed Gods and the others, or any other sort of drama relating to this… go ask them if you don’t believe me! I care very much about you two staying on here.
I’m sorry this has caused a divide between us/you/the server/whatever, but if you insist on being bitter about stupid things; slandering me, or whatever – then I’m sorry but I have no time for someone like you. If however you’d like to make amends, and are willing to give me a little more time to sort this situation out, I will most happily help you, Pash, and SJ fix this on a permanent basis.
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I’m closing this now, rant over. I’m too tired. If you’d like to talk further, I’m usually on discord – if there’s any updates I’ll poke you there too as usual.
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@XeronOctober 3, 2019 at 10:12 pm #63711Update: as of the time I’m writing this, I have recieved the needed permissions from Gods to move his base, and it has been moved far away from you guys to the edge of the map. All of his claims in that area are gone, his base there is gone – if anymore small claims of his remain, pop me a message.
I told you it was coming, this is literally all I have been waiting for…
Disclaimer: we will not be doing anymore base moving – this was a massive exception, do not ask for bases to be moved.
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