this ban is a strange argument. i can’t believe i’m coming back to here even though i know i’m just gonna get brushed off by people who refuse to change their opinion on the topic. Now saltpigeon is not the most innocent person on this server. has he gotten a lot of warnings? yes. were all of them worthy? possibly. But now looks like “the staff” caught him for advertising on teamspeak/discord. Now i was not there for most of this but as some people probably know saltpigeon has a group of friends who may i remind you were brought to this server BY him. The way this server handles “advertising” is ridiculous. you don’t control groups of friends on piratecraft. When a group of people come on here to devote time to playing on THIS server you can’t force them to stay. you have to persuade them to stay by providing good content. having a staff team that rules with an iron fist and will ban any group of people that even so much as look at another server is ridiculous. You want a player gone so badly? you can make them quit. Oh what there’s a rule against that now that isn’t written down anywhere? looks like the only way to get rid of them is to ban them! This server was originally designed to solve conflict with battle. This brings me back to my “persuasion with good content” i mentioned earlier. The whole reason these players are being witch hunted to being banned is because some people who i will keep anonymous (you probably already know anyways) don’t like another person playing on here. and because of the lack of capability of getting the players to leave without staff involvement they taunt them, get them to retaliate, then cry to the staff. it’s an endless cycle where the only people that ever win on here are the ones that (i can say this with solid evidence) have the staff on their side.

“Alli you haven’t shown your face in months. why do you care?”     well i just so happen to be going BY MYSELF to other servers that provide better content and communities. You can’t ban me for that can you? oh wait what’s that someone from this server followed me to [server name]? immediate on the chopping block for a ban. Since a certain player didn’t like that they decided that the best way to deal with it was to try to get me banned. Guess it didn’t work because there wasn’t solid evidence. then i wind up getting kicked from the crew because they couldn’t ban a person they didn’t like.

“this all sounds terrible! if this is true why wouldn’t the owner of the server do something about it?” i hear you saying. Well i’m going to say this outright because nobody else has the guts. you know why this hasn’t been fixed and has been allowed to get like this? because guess what Mr.Owner cares about? M-O-N-E-Y. Only now has this come into play because Mr.Owner could just sit back and keep the server functional under minimal effort. But slowly over time vital game mecahnics have broken and what has been done to fix them? Nothing… Absolutely nothing. you know why nothing has been done to fix it? because it wouldn’t make more MONEY. This goes for both sides? you want to stop getting banned for stupid reasons like trying to invest some of your time into more entertaining things? Stop donating until the staff team is fixed. You want to do something about these players  you dislike personally? stop donating until it’s fixed. People fail to realize that as they bicker over the problems of the server they are STILL donating. The owner sees this as “well they haven’t stopped donating. That means they’re okay with it. why should i fix it? they can handle it themselves” and does nothing to fix it. If you issues to be fixed then persuading the owner is the best option.

“but what if i get banned for it?” Most likely you won’t be if enough people listen to some nobody that’s played on here for longer than about 90% of the people that read this (not playtimewise. i’m not that person with over 3000 hours of playtime on here), the only thing that keeps this server alive is the donations. If you demand better content before you donate, you will get better content. End of story.

“but those people that do donate will have an advantage!” No they won’t. Not by much at least. If they had enough of an advantage that you’re forced to donate this server would have been blacklisted for eula violation. Which it hasn’t.

Wow what a wall of text huh? Now hopefully some people will realize they shouldn’t be yelling at each other for their issues. But should be talking to the person who can actually fix them.

Disclaimer: i do appreciate everything this server has done to be  entertaining and i do not “hate” this server. It just has some issues that could be easily resolved if people would be willing to do something about it rather than hating each other. Also if this is enough to ban a player who has only recieved a single warning as punishment over the course of 4+ years then this server has proven how it treats it’s players, like an income source, Putting the nail in the coffin for it’s reputation.

@allidoisdig1234 wat

I was away on holiday when this all unfolded, so I’m going entirely on facts and not bias or opinion.

1. You were advertising to tens of people, you were specifically targeting long time players (4+ years here) This is extremely obvious you were attacking the main player-base to harm piratecraft, for what means, I have utterly no idea why you were doing this. Im not sure what you have to gain from it, but I know for a fact it was a direct insult to the entire community here, even when you were given staff previously.
2. This is a hostile appeal.
3. You have made your “appeal” about other people.
4. You were the one specifically reported by multiple people for advertising
5. when you were staff you were reported for abusing your staff permissions.
6. Since day 1 we have perm banned for Advertising, its scummy. Here are the rules
   1. https://piratemc.com/information/rules/
   2. Its rule 6, No advertising at all.
7. You have 6 previous bans https://bans.piratemc.com/index.php?action=viewplayer&player=Saltpigeon&server=0 Some are dupes so lets call it 2
   1. You have already had official warnings for advertising from as far back as 11:08:14 15/11/15
   2. I have had to personally talk to you about going to other servers to advertise, again, I really don’t like this tactic.

From all the facts above, I cannot fathom any reason why I should give you yet, ANOTHER chance.

There was a vote and staff discussion on your behaviour before, for reaching the 6 warnings you were banned by multiple staff as you just wasnt listening to your warnings, official warnings, and you were given multiple chances before this with staff talking to you. You have literally been giving an insane amount of warnings to not be act as you have.

I was the one that asked for your permanent ban before to be removed to give you another chance, I didn’t make this public or message you about it, we have in-depth staff discussions. Again Giving a second/third chance to someone hasn’t worked for me.

I cannot understand how you do not understand any of this, you have already been giving multiple unbans, and now you are spitting in my face trying to harm the server, for what end?

There is no place for you here Salt.