[Report] JavaInvader Harassment
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November 9, 2017 at 12:45 am #54552
For now I will close this discussion until the staff make a decision. Any further concerns or information regarding this can be send to me on discord (The_Network#3103) and will be relayed to the staff as a whole.
Temporarily closed.
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~ Deckie of Angels ~November 10, 2017 at 3:50 pm #54597Well since I have been forced in this, time to “poke the fire”, this never ends well for me.
I’ve talked to both parties, this really is a feud between two players that got out of hand and flooded onto the forums.
This is a classic case of making a mountain out of a molehill, at its most basic level its fighting over land. Since day 1 I have always praised claiming the land you want, if you don’t want people to build next to you, then claim it. it really is that simple. *I haven’t got enough claims! THEN make money and buy them or donate for them, or win BOTM*
Can I just set a precedent here for this report case? This isn’t a hacking or a dangerous abuse of powers, This isn’t a racial or hate crime issue, This is a totally blown out of proportion dramatic feud between two(and now more) people that got angry at each other over a disagreement with who owns land. This then turned into brining in more people to create pressure, intimidate and trigger the other, Both sides dragged people into their issues creating more drama, fueling the drama fire.
So, you fight over land, you have your he said she said, you both build and claim to piss off the other, forget all that and look at the big picture for me, its going to be hard for most people to see this report from an un-bias perspective even if they say they are. I want to look at the actual harassment as that is the report. Taking to both people, staff, people involved, BOTH sides were harassing each other.
Brass tacks is that this is a report for Harassment for JavaInvader, so lets focus on closing this report. He sure made some bad decisions by raging, kicking and giving out a single warning that maybe shouldn’t have been given out. So I looked into it more and it seems as soon as Java logs on at any point he’s always got an army of gobby people giving him hell, before he’s even started playing. I know this, its infuriating.
When a group of people all target someone its Bullying, but this is slightly different as both parties are smarter and use slightly different tactic, The descriptive word for this is Witch Hunt.
The definition of a witch hunt is a situation where accusations are made freely, especially against someone or something that is not popular with the majority.
Read that at least two times so you understand it.
These two reports posted at the same time, specifically to slander are falling under a witch hunt from my outside perspective.
Java left all the staff group chats a few weeks ago, so we have been left out the loop between this dramatic feud over land, I know Max and Smokey both stepped in, At one point to try and alleviate the issues but it still continued.
I highly suggest if there is still an issue we regenerate the land in-between the two bases and nobody has it, just to stop this squabble.
I offered a solution to Java to move his base far away from “London” but he took this as an insult and as a matter of principle.Java has asked staff to ban him multiple times now, hes fed up. London was probily never expected to overlap with Javas claim, but it has expanded exponentially an if It were up to me to resolve this, it would be clear as day to move Javas base.
My conclusion is; both sides are both as bad as each other with harassment, and I am disappointed in everyone involved in such a pathetic squabble, especially from such long term players, just disappointed.
Im never a fan of these drama pieces, I’m even less of a fan having to step in to tell everyone to calm their tits and not create witch hunts. No major harassment happened here, it was a largely dramatised fued that turned into a witch hunt and pissed off the person that was being hunted who made some bad decisions.
Anything land based can be fixed by admins, i’m tempted to take the land as my own and anyone that wants to fight with me for it, good luck.
November 10, 2017 at 9:17 pm #54604Okay, I reopened this just to say a few things.
Java and Browe I have known you both for a very long time and don’t hold bias to each of you. To see how many people have commented is ridiculous.Facts I know:
– Java’s base has been there forever
– London was built after
Okay basic facts, now for people to say Javas addition is unwarranted is bullshit, he has all right to explained his claim as he sees fit. Was London there? SURE but should a canal have been built right next to someone base not really. I would honestly have been a salty ass as well. Did they predict London to expand in such form? No one honestly can answer this with 100% honesty due to the fact they could not and still cant predict the future. Could they have adjusted the direction in which they expanded of course they could have just as Java could have. Again both could be deemed at fault here.
Abuse of powers
Java is getting a bunch of crap about him abusing powers removing a claim. Well I can come forward and say I also removed some of them. When you claim a 20×20 square just so someone else cant build there as a feud is bullshit in my opinion. People started doing it to be spiteful. Should warning have been given out, I cant say in ever circumstance
Browe has not gotten much crap about anything. Well in all honesty he messed up as well in areas. He bypassed a different admin claim and so forth.
In the end both of them did some pretty messed up stuff during this heated feud over land. Both are in the wrong so pointing fingers saying one should get in trouble and the other should is a load of bull. They both messed up and are reaping what they sew.
So for everyone who is completely taking sides is not l poking at the whole picture at all! Open your freaking eyes and look at both perspectives and then look from the outside in. This feud got way out of hand. Two of us staff tried to helped and we finally backed out as it could be appearing we were playing favorites.
So in the end both parties did stupid crap, both were not acting very mature at times and we can all learn from that. What I hope is that we don’t lose two old players on the server to this.
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