It seems as if people are forgetting there is a thing called an enchantment table…. USE IT FOR ONCE!!! 😛

Icebear has a good point, what if you’re grinding and suddenly your crew or friends base is attacked. Nobody wants to risk 100 levels in a fight.

I voted keep it. Reasons below.

I want to implement a XP multiplier plugin, so for events, or weekends or donations everyone online gets a multiplier of XP, say 1.5x XP for X amount of time, I cant use this with a /bottle plugin as then you can gain infinite XP, since you can get another player to splash that comes on after the multiplier gets sent, or use a dispenser.

I don’t have much interest in play time restrictions based on when its worth playing or not. Or events that will become the exclusives of whoever’s OP crew gets control of them.

bottle is pre-1.9 When 1.9 was released they included mending using XP bottles, this means anyone can mend their OP Armour during battle, and since its as simple as using an XP farm and /bottle to store XP for battles, this makes Armour invincible, OP armor battles will last hours.

Not sure about this. It would introduce some risk for OP players in that they may lose some armor and need to retreat, but they care less about this because they already have access to the resources for multiple back up sets. Poorer players do not. Richer players also have far more access to Buffs (gaps, crap, pots etc) so it doesn’t really change that the first to run out of buffs loses, or cant even enter into combat. Funny thing on this server is most peoples time is spent grinding and hiding, not much fighting going on, that is reserved for the wealthy who can afford to lose.

You can still farm XP bottles from villagers.

Its the rich OP players with all the resources to farm XP. Should having a villy farm be another requirement to participate? It mostly already is anyway.

Reasons to keep it

Makes ranking easier (Not a good thing)

It makes it possible.

People can sell it (You still can, farm villagers)

You like everything really easy.

The battle to accumulate the resources to participate on this server is already very steep, how much harder does it need to be?

Browe_ wrote:

Why would you be grinding to 100 levels anyway?

Um, to get to boatswain?

Browe, you’re saying the issue I’m raising doesn’t exist, yet you only answered half of it. While theoretically, every single player may have access to a exp farm (unlikely), removing the /bottle command means they won’t have access to exp bottles, a very clear distinction.

It means that players who are well established, with villager farms, who can trade for bottles, will always have an advantage in pvp. Its not easy to get a villager farm up and running, especially if you’re unable to rank up to have the sethomes and /tpa to do so.

Its a two pronged attack on the lower ranks. Firstly, they lack the exp to rank up, which means they need to build spawners. Secondly, in order to build a spawner, they’ll likely need extra sethomes and /tpa, available to people who rank up. The thing is, well established players will have increased wealth and power in the short term and the long run.

1. Godsy has already described how xp reqs for ranking up is likely to be nerfed. Plus its a one time thing, just don’t go raiding when you know you are spending the time ranking up. After all, you spent 30 full days playing the server and have broken thousands of blocks, I’m sure you can afford to avoid one fight to get your rank up.

2. The point is that it removes the dependancy on XP Bottles. As XP bottle prices atleast trebling, even rich players will find it cheaper to bring a second set of god than to constantly buy stacks of XP. Players can then repair their armour sets after a fight at their respective farms.

I voted to get rid of /bottle, reason being its makes things to easy among other things.

Ok, so how i think it makes things to easy is because of mending, and how easy it is to make a lot of exp if you put time into it. Such as if someone stands in the exp grinder for a few hours grinding away they could get lots, thus making mending op, and pvp fights last for even longer then they already do. There is no fun in that, no challenge, nothing that makes it more interesting to play. Now while the people with dubs of exp will be OP for awhile, and those who have well established grinders will have an advantage in the long run. That just means that put time into it, put time into making grinders, farms, and so on. Plus exp bottles would still be able to be gotten with villies, all you have to do is put time into find a spider spawner, or zombie spawner, and you could sit there with a lotting III blade and get a ton of string/rotten flesh to trade, and to get the villies, just wait around long enough and a zombie villie will spawn, then all you would need is a golden apple and a potion of weakness. Yeah it will be harder, and yes new players would be at a disadvantage. But if new players come to a survival sever, that is also a pirate server expecting it to be easy, does this server really want more people that only whine, moan, and complain about how hard it is? In my oppion it would be more fun to have new players that put time into things, that are willing to push through hard times and set up their own grinders/farms, or make friends with people that might have grinders/farms. Also to add on to it, most new players will most likely not know of the exsitance of /bottle, unless they actually read through the website, or someone tells them about it. Basically my point im trying to make is that yeah it will be harder, yeah it would take longer to get exp/exp bottles, but as it has been mentioned i believe, the rank req would be tweaked. It would be harder, but still doable, people could still get exp bottles, and if you have a lot of lvls  on you, enchant things, don’t have things to enchant, mine and get what you need, don’t want to mine, buy it, don’t have enough money and don’t want to mine, well then thats just being lazy, and that wont get you anywhere. Anyways, i prolly repeated some points that were already stated, but i hope i was able to state my opinion clear enough.

~PythonAce