also about their use in pvp, i rarely use exp on the battlefield, only if im super damaged, and even then i go back to my base cause i need to repot anyway.

and also its not about the armor all the time, all it takes is for one screwup for either side in a battle to lose, the armor doesnt have to be broken.

pvp is like one of those strategy games where u have to manage everything at once, health, saturation, your armor durability, your potions, and how much damage u deal to the other person. a person can get into a situation when both their health and their strength and speed runs out, and they have to chose one or the other. this decides pvp battles, so exp bottles dont play as big of a role in pvp as losing health and saturation, thats what kills you 99% of the time.

I really don’t think we should remove it. It would just make the players who come in after this is removed even more poor and less likely to win against God/Experienced players…

Not suggesting this because I like it,

but a happy medium would be to make it give you less than what you have in your exp bar.. Like 20 exp in bar makes 10 bottles.

Would it be possible to have a plugin that adds a custom tag, or create an array list, to the exp orbs spawned from thrown exp bottles that prevents the orbs from being affected by the multiplier

I think keep it as is.

Firstly, I have near enough a single chest of exp bottles. Not a lot, I know, but still a large quantity. And there are certainly people with a double or more. If you remove this, those with large reserves of exp bottles will dominate at pvp. And when the value of these stacks rises, those with plentiful stocks will earn more money.

Harder to rank up sounds well and good, but at the same time, many people quit because they’re unable to get higher. There are only a finite number of exp grinders in this world, which are again controlled by the elite few. You remove /bottle, and suddenly your average player can’t retain 10 levels, let alone 30 or 100, in an environment where they cannot farm these goods.

I think it staying is the best way to prevent a ‘money makes money’ scenario, to retain players, and to keep pvp fair.

No, please don’t, ranking will be impossible, I like having a safety deposit of bottles, and if we cut off bottles, everyone would be running around in God praying not to lose xp, no more iron fights for me. It’s fine the way it is in all honesty, and I met someone with a dub of xp bottles, his prices can go sky high if you remove that. think about the hungry unicorns in Unicornicopia, how will they survive without their xp bottles to feed on ;-;

The short term issue is that those with the larger stocks will fare well. Inevitably, those stocks will run out, but in the short term, removing them gives the richer players more wealth, and more of a pvp advantage.

Everyone seems to think that in the long run, removing the /bottle command will level the playing field, when really, it will make it that much harder for newer players to combat the wealthy elite. Players who are well established control the best and more efficient exp farms, and have the villagers to create more bottles.

The newer player won’t. They won’t have access to a villager unless they find one out roaming, or unless they convert one and create a breeder, which is very difficult. They probably won’t have access to an exp farm; there are only a finite number of these in the world, and the very best are controlled by established players. How do we expect these people to rank up? By walking round, killing mobs in order to achieve 100 levels? By using someone else’s farm?

In the short term, the wealthy have a huge advantage. In the long run, they will monopolise exp; controlling the farms, the bottles, the villagers. In the end, if we do this, we will end up creating a server which is fundamentally skewed so as to make the rich rich, and keep the poor poor.

How else do you propose new players get the necessary exp to rank up?

talking to godsy a lot made me realize that this plugin needs to go, it is a stain on the server like the gapples were back in 1.8, the rich get richer. people thought that they could never pvp without gapples and most of them learned that is quite possible to do so (cough except rep cough 🙂 )

this will be for the better of the server, and good pvprs will learn how to get around this minor setback 🙂