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  • #30819
    Texter495
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    Ok so if most of the crews are ok with it I think this could be a great idea to add to PirateCraft. One of my ideas was each crew that want a chance of being a party in the election would put there man forward I.e. Say BE joined and there main man was CrazyPirate1, if they then won BE would come into power and CrazyPirate1 would be the PirateCraft president.

    Please everyone tell me what you think of this idea and if all goes well we can keep the presidency changing each month(unless your re-elected in)

    ~~Thanks

    ¥Leader Of Atlantians¥

    #30828
    Redstone_Potato
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    How would voting be done? Also, how much power does the President have? If the President is too powerful or there’s a loophole they can use to gain an advantage for their crew, this would be terrible. Please, at least for my sake, explain the intended amount of power, so I know if I should start looking for a nice cardboard box to hide in. ;(

    #30831
    Minecraftventura
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    Does it really need to be explained why a system where one or more people, most likely with no military backing, being in some sort of supreme control over all other players on the server would not work at all?

    Well, for those of you who don’t already see the issue; the main problem would be with uncooperative people such as myself. Basically, if some person, lets use Texter in this example(god forbid) told me that I had to do something because he/she was president, my first reaction would probably be along the lines of “How about you come over here and make me.” And if they continued to go around telling people what to do, I would likely decide to spend a decent amount of time running my sword through them.

    Until you can consistently beat the pirates(which probably wont happen for quite some time) you will be unable to make significant progress in areas such as trade, and diplomacy due to the simple fact that the people who make the laws are the ones who have the most military power.

    #30832
    Crazy Pirate
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    I must agree, if people are that keen on democracy and elected officials, then go ahead and join the BE, we elect a Prime Minister and new Government every 6 months. Thing is, people don’t like abiding by rules when they are forced upon them by a weaker person. Ultimately, the rank of president would have no weight to it, and so no one would listen to it!

    #30833
    Texter495
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    @minecraftventura and @crazypirate1 to very good points, but I think your missing the idea slightly, the president would not have complete control I was thinking more along the lines of the president and his party would be instructing server builds. But I see logic in both points and especially yours vent I think maybe we should potpone the idea.

    Anyway thanks for your feedback!

    ~~thanks

    ¥Leader Of Atlantians¥

    #30839
    Kanube
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    Well, IMHO, FWIW, if there were to be a president, he/she would have the responsibility for taking care of things that, like the purpose of government irl, normal folks don’t have the power, authority, and/resources to take care of themselves. Like deliver the mail, maintain the roads, provide for the common defense, etc. etc.

    For example, perhaps they could go around and make sure there are adequate roads and in a good enough state of repair, or that the balance of power is fair and no one crew is ‘running the show’ so to speak.

    Anyway, that’s my opinion, so there ya go.

    ?

    Brother Kanube, head of the Order of St. Ender, Watcher of the Void
    ~~~~~ from the dust of the void all is made, and to the void it returns~~~~~

    #30840
    Manda
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    The upkeep of roads and a real delivery service would be an interesting idea… The Panda Postal Service! 😛

    "Nec possum tecum vivere, nec sine te."
    -"I can live neither with you, nor without you."- ~ Uta

    #30857
    CaptainCracken
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    yes and btw elections are coming up soon for BE…

    VoteForMeAndKeto 😀

    -CaptainCracken

    https://www.minecraftskinstealer.com/achievement/a.php?i=5&h=Hey+Big+Spender&t=Spend+Over+%242k+on+Food[/url]

    #30861
    souldin
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    you must really ask yourself what would a President do in this server. he will have NO authority at all. the President is Godsdead as he owns the serves.

    Souldin1

    #30864
    iOdiwanKenobi
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    I could assassinate crazy like JFK! Oh my gosh! MODERN PIRATES! I do believe mods should have nothing to do with this and it should just stick to role play.

    Ironic

    #30885
    NorthernWolfSoul
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    Like Ven said, people wouldn’t give authority. I know I wouldn’t, I’d be a rebel and troll the president just cuz. Maybe the president could just be for show and not really do anything… kinda like England’s royal family.

    --WolfSoul--

    #30910
    Palmerageddon
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    This idea would just really fall flat on it’s face.

    You can make a crew if you like which builds stuff or does all these little things to make the server better.

    Not some silly old rank which makes someone ‘better’.

     

    I think also, this person would be hunted by people, just because they would be.

    No reason, just because they would be, if they had this rank.

    #30919
    The Queen
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    I am loving all these points!

    I mean as my role as Queen I must understand it is not just me in charge over the entire thing. That I must make sure power is equally divided.

    Which is why we assign positions and there are other King and queens of the other 2 factions (High Elves not established yet) but woodland and dark elves of course.

    I like the talk of power division though, I mean our government style is Monarchy but we must come to our senses and see we will not always be in power! Which is why we must have children or adopt so the EE continues when we may not be there.

    My son (Xaniclos) is the Woodland King but I myself am the Woodland queen now now, before you get ahead of yourself no we’re not married…I’m High Queen as my son is just a king to show some barrier, there have been monarchs in LOTR of course and irl with mother and son ruling at the same time.

    Now my king I haven’t had one king to stay yet…or one that people can respect.

    As my conclusion I do BELIVE the BE has a bright future political wise as the EE will as well but more straight forward, as the BE political system is modern day built.

    Good luck BE and My blessings to the next PM, may our alliance stay strong and future of both our nations stay bright as the great eastern starlight.

    Mother and soul protector of the Elven Empire

    #30924
    otagowill
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    I like the idea that the president could be in charge of roads and such.

    I would like that the president is in charge of busses (people transport ships) that take people places for small prices and have times when they arrive and depart.

    i find a way or i make a way wether you like it or not

    baron of the travasen land

    #30934
    Saltpigeon
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    If the president is only here building roads and stuff, they shouldn’t be “president” more like “Responsible of #####” also you need to divide the jobs so that the trolls won’t just attack the all powerful.

    Do not horse

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