Thing with  the empires is.. we add story to the server, pirates don’t really do that. I regularly check the Wiki for things but it is most of the time only the more “peaceful” crews that write things down, both about themselves, but also the pirates they fight against – Which is how it should work.. The empires have a structure, a solid foundation as to how it functions, some do better than others I’ll admit and I’ve also in the past voiced my thoughts about many “empires” not being anything close to that, other than the actual title.

I still to this day believe there are two “real” empires.. Crews that have had really great impact on the server trough a long period of time, has many members and a number of well equipped settlements around the world.
I personally only see the BE and the EE as empires on this server, everything else is too small tbh.. Maybe the verrussians can also be counted, but they don’t really exist anymore.. so, yeah.

Some of our alliances are not good for us, thats how it is and we are working on who we want to ally, LoN is as dead an alliance as Hardtimez chances are of returning to this server again.. The individual bonds between crews within the LoN is the only that is left. There just haven’t been a formal announcement of the LoN ceasing to exist because some crews within wishes to keep it. But I say as the head of BE, LoN is worth nothing to us and we are aware of that, BE only rely on it’s personal relations with specifically the EE and the Thirteen Colonies, also there are some others that i’m not 100% sure about at this point.

But yeah.. Pirates are supposed to be part of the server too, and we in BE at least does not wish them to vanish, we just wish to suppress them if they get too powerful and start to control the entire server and kill everyone literally every day, incl our own members. We do what we can to survive, that’s it. Don’t think we die all the time too, we do.

I agree alli, it’s hard to ever fight someone if he’s the ally of you allies ally… I will talk to 13C congress about dropping some of our pointless allies..

The mainproblem we have with alliances is that it is not Real Life i think.
In Real life you can go over longer time with one goal and one group.
But games lack this because of what you can do in a short time.

For an example we have the British empire as a group.
When they started they were new and cool and as long as they held a dominance on the server they were a stable power.
However inpatient players outside and inside the BE wanted to gain positions of powers fast, that way many factions formed.

Now since we have all these factions and large areas with unused buildings and/or even completly untouched nature this leads to an abundance of space for new crews/gangs/countries to grow.

Which lets me think that we won’t be able to “fix” this factionmess as long as we don’t find a way to focus a lot of players on a simple goal like let’s say:” Keep the area around cove and spawn safe so newbies have a chance on this server.(Also to make them join the crew that does it to grow in players and area controlled)”

However this is my opinion…..sorry for the long text…once again >_<

another problem i see is that people are arguing over undefined terms. there must be an agreed-upon definition for terms like “empire” , “pirate” , “honest piracy” , “alliance” etc. you guys are taking words you hear adults say, and are trying to apply them here on this server without knowing exactly what it’s definition is or how it applies in theory. i remember maybe Reptaria or EE trying to create titles for crews with a certain amount of members. the idea was good, but the criteria for ranks were highly arbitrary (like most ideas on this server).  just like “alliances” you guys took a thing like the “league of nations” and half-assed that project. don’t get me wrong, i’m with y’all, i’d like to see more organized interaction, but that doesnt happen without a trained & educated government that has existed for some time and has gone through some of the growth pains. right now you guys are in the stone age, barbarian kindergartners saying words like “honor” “empire” “pirate” and setting things on fire. this is Anarchy (just like the real world).

*people are gonna play how they like. don’t try to change that (without having another form of government to replace it with).

BE and EE should go to war and end this server wide alliance bs.

2 large (Although i don’t consider EE an empire perse) Empires should be at war, while pirates -browe- attack both sides looking for looooooot and some booty *if you know what I mean* And bam it works out maybe

Lucky you will be missed 🙁

The division shouldn’t exist so narrowly as it should do to be honest. Although the ‘Verussian wars’ were so detrimental to me, they were a fight of morals and purpose, wars that should be fought. perhaps maybe the war was fought today I may have enjoyed it more, but wars like those are what thrill me. Wars between empires and empires tend to be over land disputes, clashing ideologies, political divisions, ect…But those are the wars that are fought with passion and hatred, but the ones that are typically more fun, the ones you really want to win because the repercussions are real.

Empires shouldn’t just be against Pirates because thats ‘history’ they should fight  each other, conquering cities, trying to dissolve political groups the lot, that’s what I like. Right now VE is dormant in terms of our activity in wars and conflicts , but we are very much alive. Just focusing on cities for now. But what constitutes as a nation, is something I don’t think should be left to that sort of decision; groups like Rome, Entaria, Verussia, Luetus Republic, Xenon, 13 Colonies- I’d say they are all nations, whether they involve themselves in the year long battle against pirates. I mean, there is no doubt that the BE and EE dominate the political world revolving nations due to their size, involvement in international organizations and power, I just think credit is due to some of the other groups listed.

Being in the crew, I should know how Verussia works, and I am fairly certain that we should constitute as a nation. But by Reptaria’s definition, we don’t? It’s not insulting ,it just doesn’t seem fair. Other than that, I do support most of what you said.

Edit:  Sorry I just realised I posted this on the wrong forum, they seem quite similar so this can be interchangeable, sorry.

The Queen wrote:

EE is North Korea

fixed

OfficialRS wrote:

The division shouldn’t exist so narrowly as it should do to be honest. Although the ‘Verussian wars’ were so detrimental to me, they were a fight of morals and purpose, wars that should be fought. perhaps maybe the war was fought today I may have enjoyed it more, but wars like those are what thrill me. Wars between empires and empires tend to be over land disputes, clashing ideologies, political divisions, ect…But those are the wars that are fought with passion and hatred, but the ones that are typically more fun, the ones you really want to win because the repercussions are real. Empires shouldn’t just be against Pirates because thats ‘history’ they should fight  each other, conquering cities, trying to dissolve political groups the lot, that’s what I like. Right now VE is dormant in terms of our activity in wars and conflicts , but we are very much alive. Just focusing on cities for now. But what constitutes as a nation, is something I don’t think should be left to that sort of decision; groups like Rome, Entaria, Verussia, Luetus Republic, Xenon, 13 Colonies- I’d say they are all nations, whether they involve themselves in the year long battle against pirates. I mean, there is no doubt that the BE and EE dominate the political world revolving nations due to their size, involvement in international organizations and power, I just think credit is due to some of the other groups listed.

From this i’ve gained so much more respect for you.

OfficialRS wrote:

by Reptaria’s definition, we don’t? It’s not insulting ,it just doesn’t seem fair.

Imo I personally think BE is by far the largest, most organized. VE coming in second EE in 3rd. Rep doesn’t define what an empire is, The people do ;D just remember that

Lucky you will be missed 🙁