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July 1, 2015 at 8:11 pm #16657
Blake Wells
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I made my base spesificly for hiding. its completely underwater too.

but from the map people can just instantly find us which i think is annoying. It takes a big part of mine craft out which is actually exploring and looking for things like peoples bases and such. I think the map can show players but if i want to hide my base i could do something like /hide or something. also it makes it way to easy to see when someones coming and stuff. its kind of like having wall hacks. thanks 🙂

peaches are kawaii
July 1, 2015 at 8:29 pm #16662
Grandma
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You just have to hide better. :/

I'm just a sweet ol' grandma tryna understand wtf I just read.
July 1, 2015 at 8:44 pm #16666
Palmerageddon
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you can hide.

if you have lights in your base turn them on when you leave to stop mobs spawning and when you get back turn them off.

This is putting you in a light level of less than 0 if there is no other light sources.

other ways you can hide is invis potion, crouching and that’s really it.

/hide would completely destroy the reason a live map is avalible so if I were you make do or make your base non-siegable.

But the reasons the live map is there is to stop people hiding from it, it would then make battles really really slow and it helps people to avoid areas where people are for example.

not saying your idea is terrible but from my point of view it would defeat the entire purpose of a LIVE MAP.
July 1, 2015 at 9:06 pm #16672
Blake Wells
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Palmerageddon wrote:

you can hide. if you have lights in your base turn them on when you leave to stop mobs spawning and when you get back turn them off. This is putting you in a light level of less than 0 if there is no other light sources. other ways you can hide is invis potion, crouching and that’s really it. /hide would completely destroy the reason a live map is avalible so if I were you make do or make your base non-siegable. But the reasons the live map is there is to stop people hiding from it, it would then make battles really really slow and it helps people to avoid areas where people are for example. not saying your idea is terrible but from my point of view it would defeat the entire purpose of a LIVE MAP.

its the diffrense between long term and short term. and I’m a long term player. I use to follow players to their base and see how they entered and watch for weaknesses. Not be spotted. use to actually have to make our own maps. Im a vet to mine craft and it was hard. I don’t want that. the purpose of /hide is for new players like me so don’t have resources to actually protect the whole base and such. Because at this current level anyone can come to people that are new and just take us out along with all our gear. Maybe have a spawning buff that stops this. But so far i find this a problem. and in my opinion the server should be aiming for more longterm players than short term. Yes battles will be slower but they will be more planned out. Preparation stages are required. scouting, negotiating. Makes things more fun. and this is a pirate server after all. We have ships and exploring isn’t that hard. I say that if a player chooses they do not want their position, base, loot and everything they have worked on the be broadcasted they can do it. But if someone doesn’t care congrats. they don’t have to /hide

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July 1, 2015 at 9:41 pm #16681
OfficialRS
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Nah hiding from the map is completely do-able right now,rather have an underground base with little light source or watch your back…

Personally,I use the live map for hunting people down,seeing how my base looks from above and watching out for enemies.

Even if this was added,/hide should be un-lockable at rank sailor+ or higher.Otherwise the map would be practicaly empty.

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July 1, 2015 at 9:44 pm #16682
DirectorAnivian
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Live map has been around on the server longer than you have so I wouldn’t count in live map being removed any time soon. If you want to hide from map I would suggest you make your base completely dark and out of siege proof blocks. Or you can shift or use a invisibility pot as mentioned above.

P.S. if you are a “long term player” you should know that commands can’t be created lickety split as it seems like you are suggesting.

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July 1, 2015 at 9:46 pm #16683
TimHuisman
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A command for that would be a bit too easy, I think! People would just /hide all the time. (I know I would, even though I have no actual reason to)

Using purely redstone torches to light up your base will work too, I believe.
That’s what I use when I’m piloting my submarines.
July 1, 2015 at 10:15 pm #16684
koi0001
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I have to admit without live map and seeing players this server would be more boring for me.
July 1, 2015 at 10:35 pm #16685
Blake Wells
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I never said remove live map. I love it myself. I say at the start maybe new players get a buff or something allowing them not to be easily sniped and such when they don’t have things like a base or protection

I use the map a lot. I don’t want it gone.

peaches are kawaii
July 1, 2015 at 10:41 pm #16686
Blake Wells
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TimHuisman wrote:

A command for that would be a bit too easy, I think! People would just /hide all the time. (I know I would, even though I have no actual reason to) Using purely redstone torches to light up your base will work too, I believe. That’s what I use when I’m piloting my submarines.

Add a timer or something maybe. people can only hide for a certain amount of time. only new players can get it to help their start out a bit more and not get raided instantly

DirectorAnivian wrote:

Live map has been around on the server longer than you have so I wouldn’t count in live map being removed any time soon. If you want to hide from map I would suggest you make your base completely dark and out of siege proof blocks. Or you can shift or use a invisibility pot as mentioned above. P.S. if you are a “long term player” you should know that commands can’t be created lickety split as it seems like you are suggesting.

I don’t want it gone. I know that i haven’t been on this server a long time. And as a dev myself i understand the time it takes and i never pushed this idea. It would just be nice and encourage newer players into the server and make us feel a little safer. because most new players don’t just have a bunch of spare blocks to really protect everything

koi0001 wrote:

I have to admit without live map and seeing players this server would be more boring for me.

never said i wanted it removed. its actually really fun tbh to see. But is super easy to abuse

yes i can make my base completely dark but i need to grow crops to survive. So the next explanation is make a bigger base. but i don’t have enough protection blocks which ends in me being sieged. so?

peaches are kawaii
July 2, 2015 at 7:22 am #16688
Crazy Pirate
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But if it was only a buffer for new players, even then, it would be so very OP. What’s to stop them from sieging your base? And how would you know where they were? You could be walking around at a warp, and then someone gives a new player some, idk, okay-ish gear. Then, you would be stalked without even knowing it!
July 2, 2015 at 8:35 am #16689
Palmerageddon
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New players only really get one buff.

They have protection to stop them getting killed in their first hour or less of playing.

like I said before /hide would defeat the purpose of having a live map.

So far all you’ve said apart from saying “I personally love the live map!” has all been against it.

/hide would be an abused command.

and you can just buy food if your going to starve or carry a chest and before you die of hunger you put all your stuff in it.

So I find all your arguments STUPID.
July 2, 2015 at 9:02 am #16695
GodsDead
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The issue you haven’t solved is if I gave /hide to all deckhands, if they /hide as a deckhand, when they rank up they will still be hidden, if they donate they are still hidden, again this is a very flawed request.

You haven’t given a complete solution.

What you haven’t mentioned is that all brand new players are immune from PVP for 1 hour either, this gives them a 1 hour head-start.

I could however set a permission to deckhands that hide them from the map, but then I would get the other 80% of them going “Why cant I see myself on the map”.

If you can find a technical solution, this may be a good idea to hide deckhands from the map until they rank up.
July 2, 2015 at 1:55 pm #16700
DirectorAnivian
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Perhaps the PvP immunity for 1 hour would be useful. Currently it is simply looked down upon if you attack deckhands. Therefore the people that attacked you are looked down upon by other players.

<span style=”line-height: 1.5;”>maybe if a pvp grace period was added for deckhands it would give them time to get started plus it would drive deckhands to stop sitting in spawn whining about wanting a crew.</span>

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July 3, 2015 at 9:05 am #16740
Palmerageddon
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Ani the pvp protection already exists in game for deckhands.

and I could see /hide catching on but catching on that people abuse it and are stupid with it.

Its already hard enough to defend against people on the live map if they are using an invis potion because /near becomes handy to defend against it.

so livemap actually benefits you in some ways, it gives you almost radar like abilities.
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