iOdiwanKenobi wrote:

There should be more of a collective and I think Java needs to be involved just to counter/alter them.

What drugs are you on Sirrrrrr?

Lucky you will be missed 🙁

There are a lot of “how you should play on this server” threads at the moment.

The issue is that people will play to the game mechanics for best advantage/enjoyment. If you want to see a different play style, look at what can be done with the game mechanics. Otherwise it will be more people building and grinding and hiding in ugly boxes.

Not that there’s anything wrong with that. Its just a different style of play. I’m kind of in “Ebaycraft” mode building ‘stuff’ and trading to make some money. Same thing most ended up doing on Diablo 3.

My initial idea coming to the server was to lower the bar on gear and enchantments, to a point where it wasn’t such a major deal to lose a fight or a raid. All the indentured players didn’t see this point of view because they were well established. But still everyone hides in there boxes and doesn’t want to lose there gear, or cries for it back where they do.

Just my 2c.

There’s still plenty of play styles to take on the server without pirating.

I have sooooo much to say about what so many people have said here… But I’m away for a few days, so it’ll have to wait…

My first point… Reptaria says that “Some of you call yourselves pirates but your [sic] not acting no where [sic] close to a real pirate or even pirate crew”… This, to me, raises the question of how pirate crews actually acted. Well, many pirate crews actually consisted of many naval sailors or traders. Conditions for traders and naval sailors were often so poor and underpaid (so bad, in fact, that sailors were often shackled to their ships so that they couldn’t run away) that when pirates offered them an alternative to their would-be death, many of them did not hesitate to join up with pirate crews… So… Pirates acted just like any other sailors. In terms of loot, I think this is another interesting point worth raising, a pirate’s primary goal was not to steal all the riches he possibly could, but to survive! This means that a pirate’s loot often consisted of food supplies, rope, wood, navigational tools, and the real treasure, medical supplies. And buried treasure? Again, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but that has happened three recorded times. And each time, the treasure was found by those it was stolen from…

Moving swiftly on, Reptaria mentions settlements, kingdoms, realms, and empires… I think it’s worth defining each of these, and comparing them! So, a settlement is defined as “a place, typically one which has been previously uninhabited, where people establish a community”. So… Typically a very small number of people on a very small amount of land, most probably not particularly civilised in terms of living conditions… Okay… Kingdom? A kingdom is “a country, state, or territory ruled by a king or queen”. Got that? Awesome! Moving on! Realm! This is one I find particularly entertaining… A realm is simply defined as “a kingdom”. So… Yeah… Make of that what you will? Finally, Reptaria mentions an empire! This is defined as “an extensive group of states or counties ruled over by a single monarch, an oligarchy, or a sovereign state”. So essentially a kingdom that controls multiple countries.

The final point that I would like to counter here pertains to CaptainCrackerz’s and Crazypirate’s referring to the “fact” that pirates don’t follow guidelines. As a matter of fact, almost all historical pirate crews had a pirate code, which new members of the crew would need to sign to join the crew. The code covered such issues such as:

• The division of stolen goods
• Disciplinary rules and procedures
• Compensation for injured pirates

Some more famous examples of pirate codes include Captain John Phillips’s articles, the articles of Edward Low and George Lowther and the articles of John Gow.

So… Do I have proposals for fixing such things? Well. In short, no, I don’t… Yet. But I feel like it’s more than just the status of nation and pirate crews that needs fixing. A simple observation suggests that  crews which identify as neither pirate nor nation crews are becoming more and more common on this server. Do these not need to be addressed, too?

In terms of nation crews, numbers are not a satisfactory way of measuring simply by themselves. I am sure that you all have heard of the Vatican City. This is a nation with the world’s lowest population… 451. But the history of the country is rich and vast. Does this means in constitutes an empire? Absolutely not! An empire should be in charge of multiple other crews and/or countries. As such, I don’t think it is appropriate for any crew on the server in its current state to call itself an empire. You will often hear the BE and the EE boasting about their number of cities and how that definitely helps constitute them becoming an empire. No, it does not. At best, it makes them a country, at worst, a state. I will do some more thinking over the coming days/weeks and see if I can come up with more research and guidelines as to how to differentiate between crews.

TL;DR – Do some research before making posts like this, please! Also, if you’re going to complain about something, come up with an alternative solution that you feel to be better! I hate people who complain without suggesting alternatives…

Piratecraft has elves, a talking sheep, Konstruktor’s futuristic Metropolis, Rubihube’s underground Vault 101, bearded yetis, strange freemasons.
Towns vary from medieval huts, to Victorian palaces, to modern skyscrapers.
There are submarines and redstone flying machines.
Nevertheless, this thread is full of judgments that rely on historical, realistic, common piracy. Apparently, I can’t be a pirate anymore because even though I have a jolly roger, I travel on my beloved super galleon, I look for treasures and I fight back those who bother me, no pirate title for me because I don’t do “bad things” and I don’t seek loot like you say I should be “supposed to do”.
Empires and pirates are supposed to have feuds? Like repetitive, endless “blue team vs red team” games that have no final point? If you don’t like something in the Piratecraft social mechanics, commit yourself to change them with speeches and actions, but never try to say that something is “supposed to”. Something is “supposed to” within the limits of the crews and nations you have influence on.

1600-1700 piracy has enourmous influence on Piratecraft but it is not it’s mirror. Piratecraft takes inspiration from a lot of concepts, such as modern republics, ancient empires, books like Lord of the Rings or games like Fallout. I would suggest to rely your sentences more on the practical circumstances that we have here on the server rather than on real life examples. CaptainCrackerz probably said that pirates don’t care about guidelines because this is how it has usually used to work here in the Piratecraft dimension, without comparing to the external reality. Real pirate anectodes are very interesting and inspirational and I am always glad to hear them, but I wouldn’t like to imitate them.

Personally I take my inspiration from One Piece, which, having unusual mixtures of types of governments, magic, anachronistic machines, creatures and bizarre geography, reminds me of Piratecraft a lot more than a real 1700 caribbean sea would do. I think some of you have an idea of it, considering that the Admiral even used the Thousand Sunny as testimonial for the “sunny sales” promotion. In One Piece, it’s enough to have dreams/aims, a jolly roger, an original character to stand out and lots of travels in order to be a pirate.

For example, I remember when missmolamola first joined the server and made a presentation post. She said to be a marine educator with fondness for echinoderms and crustaceans. Sadly I was away for a month, otherwise I would have suggested there that she could become a perfect pirate, with an original researcher character, a crustacean as jolly roger and a submarine for transport.
To live on a ship! That is the greatest experience that Piratecraft hides. New members do not have roots in bases and therefore are more likely ready to start travelling on a boat.

There are a lot of ruins and towns to explore around the seas. I remember how, during my travels on my Apple Galleon, I met Prince Kitsune in the Avalor Jungle, how surprised I was to find the HardTimez tomb, how I explored Ryeka’s Pirate court, how I ended up in a forgotten verussian castle full of their early memories, how I exchanged a load of rum for a load of champagne with GrimHolder at his and CallieMav’s island, how allidoisdig once performed a “walk on fire” in our galley, and how close I was to reach South Verussi, before going away for a month due to personal matters. The adventures on a travelling ship are endless.
I’ll add a few of the dozens of photos from my logbook to give an idea to those who didn’t understand what it’s like to sail around Piratecraft. I could probably write a giant wiki page about this journey with all the material I have gathered, and it’s just the beginning. This is what I like to do, and I feel myself a pirate.

A pirate experience

Apple wrote:

Piratecraft has elves, a talking sheep, Konstruktor’s futuristic Metropolis, Rubihube’s underground Vault 101, bearded yetis, strange freemasons.
Towns vary from medieval huts, to Victorian palaces, to modern skyscrapers.
There are submarines and redstone flying machines.
Nevertheless, this thread is full of judgments that rely on historical, realistic, common piracy. Apparently, I can’t be a pirate anymore because even though I have a jolly roger, I travel on my beloved super galleon, I look for treasures and I fight back those who bother me, no pirate title for me because I don’t do “bad things” and I don’t seek loot like you say I should be “supposed to do”.
Empires and pirates are supposed to have feuds? Like repetitive, endless “blue team vs red team” games that have no final point? If you don’t like something in the Piratecraft social mechanics, commit yourself to change them with speeches and actions, but never try to say that something is “supposed to”. Something is “supposed to” within the limits of the crews and nations you have influence on.

1600-1700 piracy has enourmous influence on Piratecraft but it is not it’s mirror. Piratecraft takes inspiration from a lot of concepts, such as modern republics, ancient empires, books like Lord of the Rings or games like Fallout. I would suggest to rely your sentences more on the practical circumstances that we have here on the server rather than on real life examples. CaptainCrackerz probably said that pirates don’t care about guidelines because this is how it has usually used to work here in the Piratecraft dimension, without comparing to the external reality. Real pirate anectodes are very interesting and inspirational and I am always glad to hear them, but I wouldn’t like to imitate them.

Personally I take my inspiration from One Piece, which, having unusual mixtures of types of governments, magic, anachronistic machines, creatures and bizarre geography, reminds me of Piratecraft a lot more than a real 1700 caribbean sea would do. I think some of you have an idea of it, considering that the Admiral even used the Thousand Sunny as testimonial for the “sunny sales” promotion. In One Piece, it’s enough to have dreams/aims, a jolly roger, an original character to stand out and lots of travels in order to be a pirate.

For example, I remember when missmolamola first joined the server and made a presentation post. She said to be a marine educator with fondness for echinoderms and crustaceans. Sadly I was away for a month, otherwise I would have suggested there that she could become a perfect pirate, with an original researcher character, a crustacean as jolly roger and a submarine for transport.
To live on a ship! That is the greatest experience that Piratecraft hides. New members do not have roots in bases and therefore are more likely ready to start travelling on a boat.

There are a lot of ruins and towns to explore around the seas. I remember how, during my travels on my Apple Galleon, I met Prince Kitsune in the Avalor Jungle, how surprised I was to find the HardTimez tomb, how I explored Ryeka’s Pirate court, how I ended up in a forgotten verussian castle full of their early memories, how I exchanged a load of rum for a load of champagne with GrimHolder at his and CallieMav’s island, how allidoisdig once performed a “walk on fire” in our galley, and how close I was to reach South Verussi, before going away for a month due to personal matters. The adventures on a travelling ship are endless.
I’ll add a few of the dozens of photos from my logbook to give an idea to those who didn’t understand what it’s like to sail around Piratecraft. I could probably write a giant wiki page about this journey with all the material I have gathered, and it’s just the
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I wonder who the talking sheep is ?