FoxhoundPheonix /back abusing, Lying.

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  • #24436
    Geralt
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    Time of occurrence was 9.40 PM GMT 2+ Athen’s Time

    I saw him on the live map going towards Heidernei’s place.

    I decided to go have a look.

    I see FoxhoundPheonix down the mountainside, next to the river, I quickly rush down shooting him with my bow and ending up killing him shortly after.While I was grabbing his items, keeping in mind he could /back, I was a bit aware that I could be attacked in any time.

    And I was right, when I am out of combat, he /backs with new gear (Iron enchanted, probably /kit captain) while using a (speed?) potion on.I manage to kill him again, knowing that he would probably /back again, I quickly grab some stuff and proceed to leave but, there he is again.

    He /backed with new DIAMOND half enchanted armour if I am not mistaken, I quickly rushed to leave the area using my two enderpearls I carried with me since I panicked that it could have been god armour.After fleeing, I see him on the mountain situated right in front of me, I proceed to shoot him with my bow and quickly try to catch him by climbing the mountain, at that point, he leaves by using /home,/back whatever and fetches some ender pearls.I managed to kill him one more time while him being on his Diamond gear, dying by the last ender pearl he used and while quickly /backing to get his items and /back again for one more time.

    Screenshots will be posted in a moment.Logs can be checked too, since I have provided almost the exact time.

    In the screenshots you will be able to see his first dropped loot, his second and third attempt etc.It’s pretty noticeable in my opinion.


    @Godsdead
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    #24444
    LegionaryJoao
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    In two of your screenshots the chat says you tagged me and the rest show me at a reasonable distance away from you crouching underwater, that just proves my point that you kept killing me every time that i went back to salvage my stuff. XD


    @Godsdead
    @Iamthereaper89

    Any time i attacked you it was in self-defence which was allowed, if i came back with better equipment it was because i knew you would try to kill me and my only hope of getting my stuff back was if i had stronger armour, if using logic as a means of surviving on a PvP server is wrong then i really am guilty for trying to get my stuff out and alive, i even used an ender pearl to try and escape from you with my loot.

    Also, your final screenshot is censored since you are reporting me then you shouldn’t censor anything you should be transparent and honest.

    Like i told you, this was all a waste of time that could have been avoided if you stopped shooting me every time i went back to collect my stuff.

    9. Use common sense.

    These rules aren’t exhaustive.
    If something doesn’t appear in these rules but seems like it should be forbidden, then it probably is!
    Ask staff members if in doubt.

    I posted this rule because it is relevant to the case, in the game itself it says to use the “/back” if you have died to get your lost gear which means that i was actually not breaking any rules, i was using an in-game mechanic for its correct function and purpose.

    also:

    Be polite & respectful to players (no trolling, harassing, bullying, etc) Respect other players. If you’re angry against a player, use a pirate insult, nothing else. Do not try to troll players and do not attack a player repeatedly without a valid reason.

    The fact that you weren’t allowing me to get my stuff back and kept attacking me on sight shows that you were harassing me and i’m sure JaceBlade who got involved can also point out that you were using Verbal abuse directed at me, something you seemed to have conveniently left out of your screenshots along with many other things.

    that violates the

    Keep chat readable, English only and PG-rated. (No spam or caps abuse)
    Write full sentences.
    Do not write in any language other than English.
    Do not spam the chat in any way or abuse caps.

    Rules, so like i said this was all a pointless waste of time and effort, when in truth all you had to do was let me get my stuff without attacking me.


    @Godsdead
    @Iamthereaper89

    #24448
    Geralt
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    You could have easily asked me for your items, your argument is invalid, you attacked me when you tried to get your items, it’s clearly back abuse.

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    #24449
    Crazy Pirate
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    In two of your screenshots the chat says you tagged me and the rest show me at a reasonable distance away from you crouching underwater, that just proves my point that you kept killing me every time that i went back to salvage my stuff. XD  Any time i attacked you it was in self-defence which was allowed, if i came back with better equipment it was because i knew you would try to kill me and my only hope of getting my stuff back was if i had stronger armour, if using logic as a means of surviving on a PvP server is wrong then i really am guilty for trying to get my stuff out and alive, i even used an ender pearl to try and escape from you with my loot. Also, your final screenshot is censored since you are reporting me then you shouldn’t censor anything you should be transparent and honest. Like i told you, this was all a waste of time that could have been avoided if you stopped shooting me every time i went back to collect my stuff. 9. Use common sense. These rules aren’t exhaustive. If something doesn’t appear in these rules but seems like it should be forbidden, then it probably is! Ask staff members if in doubt. I posted this rule because it is relevant to the case, in the game itself it says to use the “/back” if you have died to get your lost gear which means that i was actually not breaking any rules, i was using an in-game mechanic for its correct function and purpose. also: Be polite & respectful to players (no trolling, harassing, bullying, etc) Respect other players. If you’re angry against a player, use a pirate insult, nothing else. Do not try to troll players and do not attack a player repeatedly without a valid reason. The fact that you weren’t allowing me to get my stuff back and kept attacking me on sight shows that you were harassing me and i’m sure JaceBlade who got involved can also point out that you were using Verbal abuse directed at me, something you seemed to have conveniently left out of your screenshots along with many other things. that violates the Keep chat readable, English only and PG-rated. (No spam or caps abuse) Write full sentences. Do not write in any language other than English. Do not spam the chat in any way or abuse caps. Rules, so like i said this was all a pointless waste of time and effort, when in truth all you had to do was let me get my stuff without attacking me. 

    I removed the tags, didn’t want to be annoying.

    Your own argument throws you in the shit really, /back is used to get items back from PVE, when you use it in a PVP situation, it is /back abuse.

     

    #24451
    WesleyCrusher
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    I think /back should have a 30 or 60 second cooldown if death was from another player.

    The no lag warp is so OP as it is, but it is a reason many buy Captain so it is supporting the server.

    #24457
    CaptainCracken
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    it rlly is, and it is against the rules Jeao, and im pretty sure u get warnings for it, like Gen_Ben did.

    -CaptainCracken

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    #24494
    michty
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    @LegionaryJao

    You objectively lost a battle. Deal with it. I had this problem many times before, /back is not meant for you to be the ultimate tool to keep the battle going. If you loose you loose, game over. Many people come back and back until they kill the other person and steal the gear. It used to be so common that it was not even worthwhile to go to battle against a donator, as you were guaranteed to loose eventually. The /back cooldowns were supposed to counter that. If I was you I would not try to convince staff to restrict it even more.

    Btw, since you are referring to rule #9. Please explain how you would be able to /back if defeated in battle in real life. I would love to learn! No, it does not make sense. /back from its nature is NOT a survival command. You are allowed to use it for convenience, not to gain ultimate superTPman powers.

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    #24503
    GodsDead
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    @WesleyCrusher I have put a cooldown on it, but the plugin that I created it with stopped working for unknown reasons, and I also got this implemented into the default Essentails as a permission but that too was troublesome as it would just add a cooldown to everything, this was back in July! Please read the forums, this has been discussed and implemented, it just isn’t working.

    pho.todoes not work, I cannot read those screenshots as I cannot view the images when clicked, please use imgur, imgur even embeds into the website.

    #24513
    Geralt
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    Here are all the screenshots re-uploaded.Him, his nametags, his deaths and returns are pretty visible.

    View post on imgur.com

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    #24662
    Geralt
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    Bumping this post up.@Godsdead I have attached the screenshots again like you requested.

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