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    The Queen
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    Yes this all happens to us, crew leaders may get inactive so as a leader I’ll demote them till they are active again.

    See we can’t do that because it’s says we need ALL leaders on to demote just one leader which makes no sense if a few of them are inactive.

    Is there a way we can fix this? Like have Owner status of a crew so if a leader is inactive you can demote them. Currently I am having that trouble as most of my high superior leadership is occupied with school.

    Help please πŸ™‚

    Mother and soul protector of the Elven Empire

    #41179
    Man2mars28
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    the real question is…should leaders have to be on the server for a certain amount of time and if they have tails then they can not be a leader just eat some cheetos and watch some Cartoon Network

     

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    #41194
    The Queen
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    Glad many of you like this idea. I’ll just wait for godsys response @godsdead

    Mother and soul protector of the Elven Empire

    #41200
    GodsDead
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    Yes this all happens to us, crew leaders may get inactive so as a leader I’ll demote them till they are active again. See we can’t do that because it’s says we need ALL leaders on to demote just one leader which makes no sense if a few of them are inactive. Is there a way we can fix this? Like have Owner status of a crew so if a leader is inactive you can demote them. Currently I am having that trouble as most of my high superior leadership is occupied with school. Help pleaseΒ 

    1. Yes its possible to disable this.
    2. I’ll explain why I think this is a bad idea, feel free to fight it, but its a global toggle for every single crew, not just yours.

    If Crew leaders are inactive, then why does it matter if they stay a leader? Just aesthetics? it wont effect game-play? It makes no difference to the crew does it?

    The benefits our-weight the cons from what I can see;

    Needing all leaders to be online to demote someone; I cant think of any cons to this setup we have at present, you didn’t say why? so im having to assume the only reason you want to do this is for aesthetics, XYZ hasn’t been on in a while, lets demote them. Is that it? If it is:

    • Send them a message on the website and explain, this is part of managing a group of players as a leader.
    • Only rank up leaders that you trust/have contact with.

    Issue that will be caused if you allow ANY leader to demote ANY other leader;

    1. Ridiculous drama when someone backstabs you and removes you from your own crew, Great now someone is crying to staff on the forums that they got kicked out of the crew they created.
    2. It means its a solid crew, your leaders have to all agree on something, you have to work together as a crew and cannot just act alone when you feel like it, as its a crew thats a joint effort to work as, a crew..
    3. You have to think about who you set as a leader, you dont just willy nilly appoint someone for a night out only to regret it later, You know you’ll need all leaders to remove them if you appoint them.
    4. Staff can remove leaders, A simple forum thread requesting it could solve someone you wish to remove that hasn’t been online for 6 months, same as claim removal thread.

     

    Alternatives:

    Conformation to promote; Currently disabled, this enables all leaders needing to confirm a promotion.

    #41206
    The Queen
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    Great points you do make. Although I can explain myself. πŸ™‚

    Firstly my higher staff can’t get on as much as real life situations are pending heavily in there lives. As the creator as every other I was just asking why couldn’t we have some sort of admin command in a crew so if this does happen, the creator could handle the situation? Don’t get me wrong I’m not trying to have people have ultimate power.

    Also it’s a pending reputation on the server your crew is showing…. Like people would give comments like, “least I’m not the only active leader”

    Also I have great communication with people in the empire but I simply can’t promote them to leader because I can’t demote the current staff now, get what I mean? It’s like a cycle. To keep the leadership strong and active so we can continue to build the empire (crew) together.

    Id rather not perfer to have 6 inactive leaders topping I have 5 more I can simply promote but I’d have about 11 leaders! Plus me and kitty! Would be 13 and I can’t have that.

    It could benifit us all of us if the creator of the crew has like very few admin commands. Like to kick leaders or demote them if needed.

    say a leader kicks random members randomly to hurt the crew.. We can’t kick that leader (should trust who we promote to begin with but this is just an example) or demote him because the command won’t allow us to.

     

    Mother and soul protector of the Elven Empire

    #41215
    Viper
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    Why is there only either crew member or leaderS (emphasis on the S), why cant there be like 1 Leader and the rest are High Command or crew members, and the leader has the most power, while the rest of the high command can do what leaders do now? Vote to remove someone that’s in high command out of it.

    Leader: Can do what normal leaders can do currently, except they can demote someone without the need of votes?

    High Command: Basically a leader without the we have in game currently.

    Makes most sense to me but idk, do we have the capability of making a rank system?

    Captain of the Pirate Crew Black Clover

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    Getting all the crew leaders on at the same time is nigh on impossible. I don’t think I’ve ever seen it happen in the BE.

    Rep, in the BE, we use military ranks (occasionally xD) to create some order. So, if there isn’t a need to give someone leadership status, we just promote them with their crew rank. Worked out fine so far πŸ™‚

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    Bislo
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    I agree, we never have all leaders online at the same time, but I think the BE is a special kind of case.. I mean, our leadership is huge.. as we have, what? 8 or so positions. we rarely see people go though, but yeah it happens sometimes.. BE is generally a stable crew when it comes to the core so I dont think it would be too much trouble for us to just ask staff to help occasionally. Also every half year we have the elections and so with that the cabinet need to change, thus leaders have to be replaced, but I think most of the positions will almost always be filled by 50-70% of the same old players so it will only be a few players every half year we’ll need help manage.

    Overall I don’t see problems with the blocker.. it stop unnecessary drama and so that’s nice – We have enough drama already πŸ™‚

     

    Founder of Port Hope

    #41251
    The Queen
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    I do understand both you and crazy’s point. The Èlves are a people made up of 4 central races and an overall head which would be me.

    Makes sense though for the BE! They are very large and public as Èlves are now more private and elite.

    I too support the idea of the blocker

    Mother and soul protector of the Elven Empire

    #41279
    Hatter
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    Well, let’s say that you have a leader that’s acting contrary to the crew’s wishes. You want to demote them, to restore balance, to punish them, yet you can’t. Because, one of your leaders are inactive. I’m not sure if this also applies to kicking them, but if it does, then it doubles the problem. You can’t punish the leader no matter how guilty they are.

    We must, indeed, all hang together or, most assuredly, we shall all hang separately.
    -Benjamin Franklin

    #41280
    The Queen
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    ^^^

    Proving my point absolutely! What are your thoughts @godsdead ?

     

    Mother and soul protector of the Elven Empire

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    GodsDead
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    There is no such thing as a “TOP MIGHTY LEADER TO RULE THEM ALL“. What there is, is leaders, you set them IF you want to share the crew power with them, There cannot be 1 person to overrule everyone…

    My pros/cons list I already made outlines all my thoughts, that we would loose a good feature for no reason if we changed the toggle to have ANY leader demote another leader.

    it’s all about your own management of a crew yo

    #41515
    The Queen
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    Yes almighty leader!

    Mother and soul protector of the Elven Empire

    #41529
    GodsDead
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    We can always trial it, nothing has to be permanent, but the second there is any drama related around “omg I got demoted from my own crew!” it will be switched back again.

    #41531
    The Queen
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    That’s fine, i mean it never hurts to test somthing πŸ™‚

    Mother and soul protector of the Elven Empire

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